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Old 04-10-2015, 03:18 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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Originally Posted by 2sleepy View Post
I'm sure they are violating the rules, but lighten up they weren't committing fraud or 'wasting' their money for God's sake. They were just happy to have a place to live and no one was harmed by it. They paid $300 for a room in someones home and that left them with $83 (not much iced tea money, huh?)
Actually, that is fraud.

TANF is not intended as a rent subsidy (that's what Section 8 is for). TANF is for families with children, all of which are more than can safely and legally live in a single room.
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Old 04-10-2015, 04:18 AM
 
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The article says that the maximum benefits for a family of three are $429 per month. Obviously no one on that income could even step foot on a cruise ship.
Oh really?

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$69 million in California welfare money drawn out of state - latimes

Reporting from Sacramento — More than $69 million in California welfare money, meant to help the needy pay their rent and clothe their children, has been spent or withdrawn outside the state in recent years, including millions in Las Vegas, hundreds of thousands in Hawaii and thousands on cruise ships sailing from Miami.


State-issued aid cards have been used at hotels, shops, restaurants, ATMs and other places in 49 other states, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam, according to data obtained by The Times from the California Department of Social Services. Las Vegas drew $11.8 million of the cash benefits, far more than any other destination. The money was accessed from January 2007 through May 2010.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So families with underage children are allowed into casinos?

Anyone on public assistance has no business spending taxpayer dollars on prepared meals. Taxpayer dollars should be spent on groceries, and the meal should be prepared by the consumer, so that the taxpayer doesn't have to pay the labor cost and markup.
Of course they are allowed in Casinos to eat, they are just not allowed in the gaming areas. How do you prepare meals without a kitchen Einstein? There are a large number of poor people who have no cooking facilities at all.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Actually, that is fraud.

TANF is not intended as a rent subsidy (that's what Section 8 is for). TANF is for families with children, all of which are more than can safely and legally live in a single room.
What is it you don't understand about this- only a very SMALL number of TANF recipients get subsidized housing In 2011 it was 12%. What are the recipients without housing subsidies supposed to to about a place to live since you have decided it's fraud for them to share a single room?
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The Bible does mention welfare - it specifically says that individuals and churches are to help those who are unable to provide for themselves.
Logic fail...
That's amusing since there were no government welfare programs in biblical times I think thou has confused the noun welfare with the program, but that's ok- keep trying you are bound to be right eventually. In case you need some more verse with which to try to fight your way out of this maybe I can help:

What Does the Bible Say About Welfare?

umm no, I didn't suggest that anytbing the Bible doesn't authorize is prohibited

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By your line of thinking, anything the Bible doesn't specifically authorize would be prohibited - including government redistribution of wealth.
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The Bible says that charity is to be practiced by individuals and churches. No passage of Scripture calls for or permits government to redistribute wealth.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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That's no excuse.
One can buy a hot plate for as little as $12 - much less that the cost of a restaurant meal for 2 people.
Elite Cuisine Single Burner Hot Plate - Walmart.com





The underlying rationale is this: it's not their money, thus, they are obligated to spend it as prudently as possible so as to minimize the burden on the people upon whom they depend for support.
About 80% of weekly hotels do not allow hotplates due to the fire risk- sorry- but keep trying you will get this right sometime soon, I know you will
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yeah the entitlement is astounding. If one is on welfare they don't deserve luxuries.
yes..shoes, imagine those slackers thinking they deserve shoes. That really takes some nerve! heck they could wrap their feet in plastic bags.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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There are a large number of poor people who have no cooking facilities at all.
The money they could save in few weeks preparing food themselves could be spent on a hot plate and toaster oven.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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About 80% of weekly hotels do not allow hotplates....
If you are poor and living in hotel room you need to learn how to spend your money wisely.For example, don't buy very expensive prepared food.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Actually Kansas hasn't stopped poor people from spending anything. It has stopped those who recieve public assistance from spending it on items like cruise ships.

If you are poor and don't receive public assistance and can scrounge up the money to cruise the Carribbean, bon voyage.
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