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Old 04-06-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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If states wanted it they could have done it long ago. The voters did not it seems.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Let me see if I have this right...

Democratic lawmakers passed a law without reading what was in it, and one with major, basic flaws. And somehow Republican governors are to blame? Nice try, but even the public isn't that stupid.

Maybe they will ask Nancy and company just why they voted for something without knowing what was in it.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Why are subsidies so important? The insurance is affordable, it says so right in the title.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It will be a political battle, as it should be, if the SCOTUS properly strikes down Pres. Obama's attempt to legislate from the executive branch.

Who will voters blame for this debacle? Democrats and Pres. Obama, who shoved this law down their throats with zero bipartisan support and zero bipartisan input? Or Republicans, who stood by, objected, and watched? It's probably a 50-50 guess.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Pols siding with the plaintiffs will get the blame from those now insured via ACA if that occurs. That will be the key for any politician; avoiding being paired as sympathetic to the plantiffs.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I'm dreaming of a country where companies pay middle class wages again instead of hoarding 100s of millions for the top executives. Then we all can afford healthcare and basics for living.
The pay of top executives has nothing to do with the pay of workers. Try again.

However, the taxes and expenses increased by Obama have a lot to do with the ability of workers to meet their obligations. How can workers afford to pay for other people's health care when they can't even afford to pay for their own?

But Liar Obama does not care. He hates tax paying middle class workers.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Who is paying any more? In the 80s, Reagan mandated hospitals could no longer turn away folks based on $. Tax money was used to then fund hospitals for unfunded care. So that guy now with ACA where you and I paid $200 for an office visit, under St. Ronald's mandate, we started paying 5x that, since w/o insurance, he went to the ER with a common cold.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:55 PM
 
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Does everyone pay taxes in your dream world or just rich guys?
What does that have to do with Universal Health Care?

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Republicans: Obamacare helps people = bad? Do you really believe that conservatives who make up half the population of the nation think it is a bad thing to help people? These are people who work as carpenters, plumbers, doctors, and computer programmers. They eat in the same restaurants you do, shop in the same stores you do, drive on the same streets you do. Their children go to the same schools yours do. But they are all so incredibly selfish and evil that they see helping people as bad.

Do you honestly see issues in such a simpleminded manner?
I don't just believe it, I know it. Republicans arguing against Universal Health Care are one of the two:

1) Misinformed because they have been fed lies by hatriot radio and right-wing news outlets
2) Psychopaths that just really think poor people should just go away and die
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There's no easy way to tell 9.6 million Americans that you are pulling their health insurance out from under them.

I'll go back to imagining a moral country where everyone has access to quality health care regardless of income. A guy can dream, right?

It was real hard telling 48 million when we all found out what was in it. It must be a nightmare to tell 9.6 million more, the plan didn't work, again.

Can't wait for the employer mandate to finally hit us real hard.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It was real hard telling 48 million when we all found out what was in it. It must be a nightmare to tell 9.6 million more, the plan didn't work, again.

Can't wait for the employer mandate to finally hit us real hard.
I am sure that the millions on Obama Care will be happy with the GOP option, glad the GOP finally woke up.
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