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Old 04-10-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The associate press reported this morning that there was no warrant as has been commonly assumed.

Report: There Was No Warrant For Walter Scott's Arrest
http://www.globoble.com/news/court-r...s#.VShE61w-BAY


Walter Scott Had Bench Warrant for His Arrest, Court Documents Show - NBC News
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Walter Scott owed more than $18,000 in child-support payments and had a bench warrant for his arrest when he was fatally shot by a South Carolina police officer, according to court documents obtained by NBC News.

ETA~~ But I agree internet sleuthing does give conflicting info on that..however TV reporting changed their initial reporting NO warrant to THERE WAS and has been consistent on that change ALL day.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/there...-walter-scott/
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UPDATE — 1:30 p.m. ET: The Associated Press report on the absence of a bench warrant out for Walter Scott has been contradicted by NBC News, which claims to have obtained court documents showing the following:

Scott owed a total of $18,104 in back child-support, the documents obtained by NBC News show. His last payment was on July 20, 2012, according to the paperwork. The bench warrant for his arrest had been active since a January 16, 2013, court hearing. At that time, Scott had owed $7,836 — but the amount had increased to more than $18,000 at the time of his death

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Old 04-10-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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Like I said, don't learn anything. Go ahead and run, mouth off, resist. I don't really care. If the cop is a bad cop you won't know the difference anyway.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Why can't people listen or stop resisting arrest? But now because one man's bad choice to run created a domino effect where other over reacted and now neither goes home and those decisions effects so many negatively.

I don't like being pulled over, you don't like it, Learn to shut up, get rid of the attitude and stop resisting.

Nothing justifies a police officer shooting an unarmed man in the back. Claiming anything else reeks of victim-blaming. Yes Scott made a dumb decision to run. The police officer should have called for backup, chased after him, pretty much do anything besides opening fire on him.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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Nothing justifies a police officer shooting an unarmed man in the back. Claiming anything else reeks of victim-blaming. Yes Scott made a dumb decision to run. The police officer should have called for backup, chased after him, pretty much do anything besides opening fire on him.
Because humans do everything perfectly.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 04:33 PM
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Because humans do everything perfectly.
There's quite the wide gulf between "humans do everything perfectly" and gunning down an unarmed person then staging the scene to cover up the crime.

We don't need the cop to be perfect. We do need him to not murder an unarmed citizen, stage the scene, then lie about what happened.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yep, and the cop knew it. Thus why he tried to stage the scene and plant evidence on the guy he'd just murdered.
It was done so casually, you get the feeling that planting evidence is fairly routine. And that cop was acting extremely casually after killing the guy. He didn't check to see if the guy was alive, or try to help him--just put handcuffs on a corpse.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There's quite the wide gulf between "humans do everything perfectly" and gunning down an unarmed person then staging the scene to cover up the crime.

We don't need the cop to be perfect. We do need him to not murder an unarmed citizen, stage the scene, then lie about what happened.
Perhaps also to use some common sense and think. The victim was local. They had his address. If they wanted to serve a warrant on him, they could have driven to his home and served it without killing him.

Maybe with the advent of the mass videotaping of arrests, cops should be recruited and hired more carefully and with stricter requirements and an emphasis on good judgment. I don't know the determining factors for hiring cops around the country, but in Fla, there is extreme nepotism in police and sheriff's departments, and there are a lot of not-so-bright people hired as cops. There are too many of these incidents and murders taking place in this country for it to be blamed on the victims. Cops are using excessive force too easily, and they simply aren't thinking like the sharpest tools in the shed.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 05:01 PM
 
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This seemes the most appropriate place for this, being controversial, but please move if not.

I am hoping someone, maybe a real lawyer or cop can offer insight on the recent shooting in So Carolina.

In many states there appear to be laws on the books that allow shooting a fleeing felon. (In the back?) In the recent shooting it would appear the "victim" had taken off, running from the cop at the car stop. This is a felony in most places. Resisting arrest, fleeing, etc.

So under that premis the cop was legal to shoot the guy in the back?

However, self defense rules say you can't use deadly force against someone who does not pose a deadly threat.

So which is it? The laws seem to be in conflict.
Why not just chase the guy down and tackle him and cuff him? Or, chase him while calling for backup? Shooting bullets in the air not only dangers the life of the person running, but it can injure bystanders, animals and every other living thing.

There's a reason there are "slow speed chases" on occasion, its to make sure the public at large is not put in unnecessary danger.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 05:10 PM
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Maybe with the advent of the mass videotaping of arrests, cops should be recruited and hired more carefully and with stricter requirements and an emphasis on good judgment. I don't know the determining factors for hiring cops around the country, but in Fla, there is extreme nepotism in police and sheriff's departments, and there are a lot of not-so-bright people hired as cops. There are too many of these incidents and murders taking place in this country for it to be blamed on the victims. Cops are using excessive force too easily, and they simply aren't thinking like the sharpest tools in the shed.
It's completely absurd that we need mass videotaping of police abuse to even begin to suggest that maybe we should do something about thugs with badges who routinely exercise poor judgement and terrorize the citizenry.
 
Old 04-10-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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It's completely absurd that we need mass videotaping of police abuse to even begin to suggest that maybe we should do something about thugs with badges who routinely exercise poor judgement.
This went beyond that. the planting of evidence moves it to a whole new level.
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