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Old 04-20-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Lol...I like how you unbolded my text when I pointed out that illegals punked you out of your jobs and you didn't do squat.

Took my job? Try again, child. As far as them taking jobs, you people are the ones they are taking jobs from.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Took my job? Try again, child. As far as them taking jobs, you people are the ones they are taking jobs from.
Both white and blacks like to ***** and moan about losing jobs to illegals but both "races" are to blame.

The OP is just being disingenuous. One of the top custom concete contractors in my area is a Black guy. He employs no black laborers, just a few white ones and the rest latino/hispanic/pacific islander. He does all my custom work I can't handle as a landscaper.

I asked him one time why he doesnt employ more black people. His answer was fairly standard, he can't keep them coming into work on time and regularly. The whities are only a little more reliable but usually move on to better paying jobs or try to go out on disability, as has been my experience.

Most of the Black men I encounter in my industry are usually at the executive level, Contractors or Site Managers. Very few are laborers.

Lots of them work for city, county and state public utilities though. As well as a lot of the white dudes in laborer positions.

Yeah I know its anecdotal but its a fairly common theme in the construction industry in the Central Valley of California.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Both white and blacks like to ***** and moan about losing jobs to illegals but both "races" are to blame.

The OP is just being disingenuous. One of the top custom concete contractors in my area is a Black guy. He employs no black laborers, just a few white ones and the rest latino/hispanic/pacific islander. He does all my custom work I can't handle as a landscaper.

I asked him one time why he doesnt employ more black people. His answer was fairly standard, he can't keep them coming into work on time and regularly. The whities are only a little more reliable but usually move on to better paying jobs or try to go out on disability, as has been my experience.

Most of the Black men I encounter in my industry are usually at the executive level, Contractors or Site Managers. Very few are laborers.

Lots of them work for city, county and state public utilities though. As well as a lot of the white dudes in laborer positions.

Yeah I know its anecdotal but its a fairly common theme in the construction industry in the Central Valley of California.
You were doing good, until you came up with "the whites are a little more reliable." You threw that in...no one told you that and that's all too easy to figure out.

ONE black contractor. Seriously. That's what you're going to use to blunt my accusations that the overwhelming majority of people hiring illegals are white and the main recruiters of these people in the history of Mexican and Central American illegal immigration have been whites?

Now who's being disingenuous?
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Well Conservatives and Dr Carson fans?

LMAO...I.can't stop laughing for the life of me!




Ben Carson: Al Sharpton and I Have the Same Goal


I have said from the start this clown will wish he had kept his mouth shut
he has an ego as big as Obama want to bet he will still run
men like this can not believe they are jerks
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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Funny thread. We'll see if Carson run how the conservatives react to him and things like this. As I have stated before, I have always had a deep respect for Ben Carson. Most black people are very familiar with his story and use him as an example to black youth to stay focused on studies to achieve goals. There are also some schools named after him. He has never been "anti-black" like a lot of black conservatives are and I think because he doesn't go into the rhetoric concerning black people as a whole, that many rabid racist conservatives won't be apt to support him if he runs (FYI, I don't think all conservatives are rabid racist but there are quite a few of them just like there are quite a few rabid racist liberals).

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Both white and blacks like to ***** and moan about losing jobs to illegals but both "races" are to blame.

The OP is just being disingenuous. One of the top custom concete contractors in my area is a Black guy. He employs no black laborers, just a few white ones and the rest latino/hispanic/pacific islander. He does all my custom work I can't handle as a landscaper.

I asked him one time why he doesnt employ more black people. His answer was fairly standard, he can't keep them coming into work on time and regularly. The whities are only a little more reliable but usually move on to better paying jobs or try to go out on disability, as has been my experience.

Most of the Black men I encounter in my industry are usually at the executive level, Contractors or Site Managers. Very few are laborers.

Lots of them work for city, county and state public utilities though. As well as a lot of the white dudes in laborer positions.

Yeah I know its anecdotal but its a fairly common theme in the construction industry in the Central Valley of California.

Off topic, but I agree. I worked in procurement/contract management for many years and made quite a few connections with contractors and the majority of our MBE contractors who were black did not usually employe black laborers either and I worked primarily in teh Atlanta GA metro. They had mostly hispanic workers. Rarely white workers as a few of them even told me that the white guys didn't like to take direction from a black man.

One in particular who was an excellent contractor in his industry told me that he preferred hispanic workers as they were more reliable than both black and white but that he usually always gave a black guy a chance to work until he messed up. I think on the job we worked on (I had to do site visits) I saw one black guy, but he may have been a black hispanic.

I had over 50% MBE businesses under contract (for those who might say it was due to affirmative action or quotas, I say, whatever, Atlanta has a lot of black contractors and a high percentage of black people in general and so black people were much more represented in our contracts). Very few of those businesses employed black workers. Mostly the white contractors employed black workers in a particular skill (especially masonry, seems most masonry workers were black) but rarely does one see a black general laborer.
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Old 04-21-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Poser mentality. How are those policies working? Minorities are still getting the short end of the stick and in down times they suffer far worse.

LMAO No wonder you bring up the Congressional Black Caucus. They falsely play the race card like you. Being uninformed as you are Corey Booker and Rand Paul are co sponsoring the Redeem Act.

And the CBC has the gall to say Rand Paul is blocking Lynchs appointment because he doesn't want to see a black person get that job. Never mind that theiving big government control freak is bypassing the Constitution and using civil foprfeiture to pump up her record. Lo and behold guess who gets hurt more from these policies? Minorities. Gee I'm shocked.

No you won't. How can you falsely play the race card if you switch?
Dude, you're like a walking cliche. If I had the TV on right now I would think I was listening to Fox News..

As for Democrat policies, yes they're working for me. Come to think about it the policies implemented by this administration are working for the entire country as well.. Is your memory so short you don't remember where this country was during the last Republican administration?
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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I hate to say that about them....but they've proven themselves to be snakes.

Hispanics are an ascendant group that has surpassed African Americans in numbers and somewhere between 12 to 20 million are here illegally. Now you know damn well that us black folks DID NOT invite these people here and we don't own the businesses that hired them. But for some reason, they're putting the onus on black folks to take the lead in deporting these people because in their minds...illegal immigration hurts blacks.

But when these same illegals ran millions of whites out of GOOD paying jobs, whites did a grand total of nothing.

Somehow though, they think they can put us down for not doing what they didn't do either. It's as if millions of white folks don't need low skilled labor when we know better.

And he has the nerve to talk about all bark and no bite when they didn't bite a damn thing.

Believe me, if blacks decide to take this issue head on, they'll go behind our backs and tell the Hispanics that we're the bad guys trying to run them out of the country. They won't join us in the fight...And it's a lost cause anyway. We'd just end up making the Latino community into bitter enemies.
Whites are whining now and trying to place responsibility on others (namely blacks) because now they have to work harder. That's all. My answer...get over it and learn to habla Español.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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First of all, where did I ever say that I'm looking to vote for someone that would help "the black race."

Secondly, in my terms? When did I ever refer to any black man as an "Oreo?"

You white conservatives are incredibly presumptuous. And that's EXACTLY why people find you to be so duplicitous.
How pedantic you are!

Be a good black democrat means having a big chip of resentment toward white conservatives who believe in education, advancement and independence of ALL Americans. Such a bad deal for all blacks as they fall in step with the hate message of the democrats.. keep the resentment plus being told they are less and need the democratic white men to give them power... what a disgusting premise to keep control over black people.
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Whites are whining now and trying to place responsibility on others (namely blacks) because now they have to work harder. That's all. My answer...get over it and learn to habla Español.
Exactly...
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Whites are whining now and trying to place responsibility on others (namely blacks) because now they have to work harder. That's all. My answer...get over it and learn to habla Español.
Who the hell do you think built this country?
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