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Old 05-03-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Fricken liberals. I swear to God, if they aren't lying, they aren't talking. For them to actually sit here and try to convince anyone that people didn't think this killing was racially motivated is utter horse spit. All over comments to the videos, and in forums across the internet, it was all about whitey killing the black man. Now that they have realized it's a black man as the "main" guy, not a peep...except here, where the liberals just lie through their teeth, trying to pretend, "no one thought that". BS.
BBM~ Why is anyone who understand POV of these Protesters labeled as Liberals??? Never understood that repeated term

Actually, the protests are about "Police Brutality" and Badge Wearing officers who treat their citizens harshly, intimidate, arrest for no legal reason ( make up charges) and force them into a system already shown to over charge, set higher bails, and so on. Then those thrown into a system which causes further difficulties for the citizens to get jobs and earn a living. I haven't even mentioned the beatdowns and causing so many physical injuries and death that the taxpayers have to pay millions in payouts for their conducts. Yet the cop, regardless of their colour faces no/or minimum reprimand !!! Talk about deck being stacked!!

I guess, I just felt that this particular incident caused protests for Policing Tactics and White on Black. Socio-economics is the actual basis of mis-trust, bad feeling towards the police in general...Not based on the colour of skin of those in LE who wield brutality because they have the Power to do so, who know they will be protected by higher-ups who hide evidence, intimidate (arrest) witnesses and refuse to even charge bad actors.. The bad actors get put on paid vacation while pseudo investigations proceed all the while concerted efforts to media outreach in order to spread lies or informations that paint VICTIM as deserving what happened to them..

In closing> It's Not Just About White Cops, but It's about the powerful who cross the line to harm those who have no power. Whether it's protesting against Politics, Law Enforcement or Court System ..It's the only way for the message will be heard. No protest..No voice raised means all is well. The powerful want to suppress those voices but 1st Amendment can't stop them.
Painting the whole for what the VERY few does seems to be the only way Media and Power Structure can maintain their views..such as Thugs, Rioters, Looting, and property damages..ALL get smeared onto the whole peaceful protestors..Thus for some It's the Us versus THEM mentality...
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Old 05-03-2015, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Come on, no as I said, he was intoxicated.

You are assuming without any facts. Why would you do that?
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Old 05-03-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yep. And more people will protest over the loss of Freddie the heroine dealer than this cop. It's insane.
Freddie didn't shoot any police officer.

I believe that there is a serious restriction on guns in Baltimore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Maryland, perhaps that would help elsewhere too.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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BBM~ Why is anyone who understand POV of these Protesters labeled as Liberals??? Never understood that repeated term

Actually, the protests are about "Police Brutality" and Badge Wearing officers who treat their citizens harshly, intimidate, arrest for no legal reason ( make up charges) and force them into a system already shown to over charge, set higher bails, and so on. Then those thrown into a system which causes further difficulties for the citizens to get jobs and earn a living. I haven't even mentioned the beatdowns and causing so many physical injuries and death that the taxpayers have to pay millions in payouts for their conducts. Yet the cop, regardless of their colour faces no/or minimum reprimand !!! Talk about deck being stacked!!

I guess, I just felt that this particular incident caused protests for Policing Tactics and White on Black. Socio-economics is the actual basis of mis-trust, bad feeling towards the police in general...Not based on the colour of skin of those in LE who wield brutality because they have the Power to do so, who know they will be protected by higher-ups who hide evidence, intimidate (arrest) witnesses and refuse to even charge bad actors.. The bad actors get put on paid vacation while pseudo investigations proceed all the while concerted efforts to media outreach in order to spread lies or informations that paint VICTIM as deserving what happened to them..

In closing> It's Not Just About White Cops, but It's about the powerful who cross the line to harm those who have no power. Whether it's protesting against Politics, Law Enforcement or Court System ..It's the only way for the message will be heard. No protest..No voice raised means all is well. The powerful want to suppress those voices but 1st Amendment can't stop them.
Painting the whole for what the VERY few does seems to be the only way Media and Power Structure can maintain their views..such as Thugs, Rioters, Looting, and property damages..ALL get smeared onto the whole peaceful protestors..Thus for some It's the Us versus THEM mentality...

Talk about a repeated lie...

This was about a white cop killing a black guy....period, end of story...

Now, when we find out about 3 of these cops are black (days later)....now the theme is "police brutally."

Why you ask....because Mr. Scott was a hell of a lot more worthy of the riots than Mr. Gray....

Now, run and google who Mr. Scott is....
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Freddie didn't shoot any police officer.
Who said he did? Reading comprehension problems?

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I believe that there is a serious restriction on guns in Baltimore Gun laws in Maryland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, perhaps that would help elsewhere too.
The 4 cops over the last 4 months who were shot/killed in NY will disagree with you...

NYS Gun Laws | NY Firearms - New York Firearm & Gun Ownership, Laws, Politics, Weapons

And this weekend another cop was shot (5 cops shot in 5 months)...in the head by a THUG!! With a RAP sheet....

Laws mean nothing to criminals....
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Old 05-03-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Physician specializing in neuro-psychiatry gives opinion of what happened to Freddie and when.

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By the time the officers were bringing him to the van, he was limp and had to be supported and dragged to the van. His left leg moved relatively normally, but his right leg was straight out and seemed to be unable to move. The moment I saw him I commented that he looked paralyzed.
Evidence Freddie Gray was Paralyzed Before Entering Van
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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Physician specializing in neuro-psychiatry gives opinion of what happened to Freddie and when.

Evidence Freddie Gray was Paralyzed Before Entering Van
Funny, you provide an opinion, yet say the following:

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You are assuming without any facts. Why would you do that?
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Funny, you provide an opinion, yet say the following:
A Physician specializing in neuro-psychiatry is an expert and his assessment of Freddie's legs, while being dragged by police, would be admissible in court.

In fact, his expert opinion would be consistent with a witness testimony.

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“The officer had their knee in his neck. And he was just screaming — screaming for life,” Moore said. “He couldn’t breathe. He needed an asthma pump, which he let them know.… They ignored it.”
Read more at http://www.eurweb.com/2015/04/man-wh...E1HiwvukKfJ.99
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Physician specializing in neuro-psychiatry gives opinion of what happened to Freddie and when.

Evidence Freddie Gray was Paralyzed Before Entering Van
The video showing his legs dragging at the time of the arrest clearly suggests some kind of cord injury.

In those situations, it's critical to immobilize the spine so that no further damage occurs. That's why they put people on spine boards and strap them in whenever there is a possibility of cord injury.

It's also extremely important to get urgent medical attention, as there sometimes are at least some possibilities for lessening the extent of the injury.
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Old 05-03-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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A Physician specializing in neuro-psychiatry is an expert and his assessment of Freddie's legs, while being dragged by police, would be admissible in court.

In fact, his expert opinion would be consistent with a witness testimony.


Read more at Man Who Filmed Freddie Gray Arrest: Cops Folded Him Like
I'm sorry...you said OPINION....not me...
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