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View Poll Results: Should the government redistribute wealth by higher taxes on the rich?
Yes 96 42.86%
No 122 54.46%
Unsure 6 2.68%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-07-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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You let the market drive a demand for it rather than artificially pretending things like raising minimum wage is the cure.
How about the government take away those property rights, tax breaks, basic research and delevelopment funding, limited liability laws, corporate charters, commercial transaction laws, trade laws, currency inflation, interest rates, wage laws, and bailouts, and see if the market can run itself.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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How about the government take away those property rights, tax breaks, basic research and delevelopment funding, limited liability laws, corporate charters, commercial transaction laws, trade laws, currency inflation, interest rates, wage laws, and bailouts, and see if the market can run itself.
Way to embarass yourself by posting a bunch of meaningless unrelated topics.. Its like talking about baking cookies, during an auto body shop. one day you'll realize you're in the wrong class room.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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While the peons want to tax the rich, the rich are the ones running the country and they will never enact any laws to tax themselves more.

So all your debates on this are futile.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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ooh lookie, someone forgot to raise their hand again before they embarassed themself

FEDERAL SPENDING has doubled.. Thats not even taking into account your claim that tax cuts are spending. If that was true, spending would TRIPLED...
Spending and revenues are completely unrelated.

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The most embarassing part of you not raising your hand is that you somehow believe that tax cuts, which grew the economy thus increased revenues, are somehow responsible for lower revenues..

Explain to me how allowing someone to keep their money, crashes economies stephen.. How old are you?
Tax cuts do not increase revenues. That's absurd. How's that working for Kansas?

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While the peons want to tax the rich, the rich are the ones running the country and they will never enact any laws to tax themselves more.

So all your debates on this are futile.
Why wouldn't they be futile? They have an army of apologists.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Spending and revenues are completely unrelated.
Which means tax cuts arent spending..
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Tax cuts do not increase revenues. That's absurd. How's that working for Kansas?
And yet revenues increased so much so after Clinton cut the capital gains rate from 28% to 20% that you guys run around applauding him for "balancing the budgets"..
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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Which means tax cuts arent spending..
No. It means cutting taxes is unrelated to spending. Spending and taxation at the Federal level happen independently of each other.

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And yet revenues increased so much so after Clinton cut the capital gains rate from 28% to 20% that you guys run around applauding him for "balancing the budgets"..
I don't applaud Clinton for anything, and certainly not for "balancing the budget" (which was a goal of the 1% bootlicking Republicans). Revenues increased due to the dot-com economic boom cycle. It had nothing to do with tax cuts.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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No. It means cutting taxes is unrelated to spending. Spending and taxation at the Federal level happen independently of each other.
Yep.. which means tax cuts, are again, not spending..
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I don't applaud Clinton for anything, and certainly not for "balancing the budget" (which was a goal of the 1% bootlicking Republicans). Revenues increased due to the dot-com economic boom cycle. It had nothing to do with tax cuts.
You mean revenues increased, even though taxes were cut? Why thats impossible if we listen to left wing kooks because tax cuts would be spending, and thus it would be impossible to balance the budget with added spending.

Oh the endless circle of stupidity the left must weave in order to validate their nonsense.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Why wouldn't they be futile? They have an army of apologists.
Nope, just an army of people who don't want to allow the government to confiscate the property of other just because of the jealousy of those who want it taken.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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You have never paid property taxes in your life. Please stop pretending that you have.

In my case, I had a lease which reduced the rent while requiring me to pay the actual property taxes separately. I asked for this in response to a tax shift which took more money out of my pocket while lining my landlord's pockets. (property tax cut pocketed by my landlord, sales tax increase taken out of my pocket) My landlord was okay with this because property tax creep was no longer a worry.

If you think renters magically escape paying property taxes, why not tax rental property 1000% more? Then homeowners like you wouldn't have to pay property taxes.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Nope, just an army of people who don't want to allow the government to confiscate the property of other just because of the jealousy of those who want it taken.
Continue deflecting. Apologists.

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I have gone over this a million times with pghquest. Tax-cuts do not grow the economy. One would think the Bush years was ample evidence of this. But no, pghquest just keeps repeating the zombie lie.
Voodoo economics still has a stranglehold on conservatives. They are more ideologically driven.
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