Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-13-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
5,735 posts, read 3,254,101 times
Reputation: 3147

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
But the world also isnt going to end if you do offer it.

but again...who pays? the middle class.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-13-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
46,001 posts, read 35,187,290 times
Reputation: 7875
Quote:
Originally Posted by FKD19124 View Post
and who is paying for that?
People with rich parents typically. You need to make 40 times the rent to rent an apartment in many places in NYC.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-13-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
6,454 posts, read 7,011,512 times
Reputation: 4663
Basically everything that he advocates for has no quantifiable return on investment.

He's a big supporter of affordable housing subsidies, addressing homelessness and providing mental health services. Thats all fine and dandy and willy nilly and all...but those issues in NYC are extremely costly and bureaucratic and he's doing it to the detriment of the Police department and the middle class of NYC.

His projected budget will without a doubt fall several billions short in the costs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-13-2015, 07:30 PM
 
943 posts, read 782,737 times
Reputation: 587
Quote:
Originally Posted by itshim View Post
Basically everything that he advocates for has no quantifiable return on investment.

He's a big supporter of affordable housing subsidies, addressing homelessness and providing mental health services. Thats all fine and dandy and willy nilly and all...but those issues in NYC are extremely costly and bureaucratic and he's doing it to the detriment of the Police department and the middle class of NYC.

His projected budget will without a doubt fall several billions short in the costs.
Getting people off the street and not panhandling gives a return on investment. Universal pre-k means poor people can go out and work as childcare is often a reason people--mainly mothers only work part time or not at all. More poor people working means less welfare and more economic activity. The cost of not doing anything cost more.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
5,735 posts, read 3,254,101 times
Reputation: 3147
Quote:
Originally Posted by moionfire View Post
Getting people off the street and not panhandling gives a return on investment. Universal pre-k means poor people can go out and work as childcare is often a reason people--mainly mothers only work part time or not at all. More poor people working means less welfare and more economic activity. The cost of not doing anything cost more.
Gullianni did this not Blasio.

Quote:
Universal pre-k means poor people can go out and work as childcare is often a reason people

for how many? Most wont work knowing they can still get free money by being on the public tit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,634,918 times
Reputation: 18521
Quote:
Originally Posted by ORION83 View Post
De Blasio's objectives include universal prekindergarten, a $15 minimum wage, paid family leave, easier access to unionization, and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.



Oh now that's just HORRIBLE! An educated,fairly paid,pro family,pro worker plan! HOW HORRIBLE! UGH! The ONLY thing I am against is the illegal immigrant crap.


Screw that! You want an even playing field? Everyone should be self employed. The word employee is stripped from the dictionary.
Talk about pulling your weight and being held accountable. The cream would surly rise to the top.
If you don't pull your weight somehow, someway, you are a burden on society, no matter how messed up your life may be or your capabilities being handicapped. If you want to live it is up to you and your family and friends. Not I, or my family.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:15 AM
 
27,307 posts, read 16,226,860 times
Reputation: 12102
Quote:
Originally Posted by ORION83 View Post
The plan included other objectives, like improving the nation's financial sector by ending the "too big to fail" designation for large banks, restructuring CEO pay, expanding public transportation, and opening Medicare to all Americans.


Oh my some more HORRIBLE things!
All of the above is code words for more regulation, redistribution of wealth and more freebies.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
5,735 posts, read 3,254,101 times
Reputation: 3147
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
All of the above is code words for more regulation, redistribution of wealth and more freebies.

Exactly! nothing to stimulate the economy and create jobs. Just more of the same reworded to "sound pretty"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:33 AM
 
9,981 posts, read 8,593,450 times
Reputation: 5664
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
All of the above is code words for more regulation, redistribution of wealth and more freebies.
It's not redistribution of wealth. The true redistribution of wealth is the destruction of the
middle class which has been taking place in this country for decades now. The wealth
has not been distributed to the poor !! It's been distributed upward to the richest fat cats.
This is a statistical fact. The biggest welfare is for big oil, big banking, big military,
big real estate, and big corporate farming. They all get government handouts far greater
than the poor. The true wealthy here and around the world laugh at useful tools who support them.
You think they want to create jobs ? HAHA !!! They couldn't care less about jobs for the masses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:35 AM
 
27,307 posts, read 16,226,860 times
Reputation: 12102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
It's not redistribution of wealth. The true redistribution of wealth is the destruction of the
middle class which has been taking place in this country for decades now. The wealth
has not been distributed to the poor !! It's been distributed upward to the richest fat cats.
This is a statistical fact. The biggest welfare is for big oil, big banking, big military,
big real estate, and big corporate farming. They all get government handouts far greater
than the poor.
Restructuring of CEO pay is more regulation and redistribution of wealth. Don't even try to cloak that any other way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:33 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top