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Old 05-29-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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LOL! No they did not. Christianity tied their major celebrations (birth and resurrection of Jesus Christ) to those pagan holidays so that they could convert people. It worked. Look, I know that you think that Jesus was just a prophet like that guy Muhammed was supposed to be, but that doesn't change the fact that Jesus was the Son of Allah and sent to redeem the sins of mankind. Peace, brother. As alaam alaikum.
The trinity wasn't even decided on until Centuries after Jesus (RA) walked the earth. They not only accepted pagan holidays, but rituals, customs, etc... The religion that Jesus (RA) brought looked nothing like the Christianity of today whatsoever.

 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Prove it.
Prove what? Bikers have been major players in distributing and dealing methamphetamine and other drugs since the 1960s, everyone knows that... Drive around much of the rural or poorer suburban areas of the US and look at the toothless white trash spun out on crystal meth. The Mexican Mafia only got into it relatively recently--biker gangs have been in it for years. Add to that intimidation and murder they use to threaten any one who challenges them or potential rivals...yeah, maybe they should clean up their own kind before worrying about others.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Perhaps you can fill me in on how the philosophical and theological underpinnings of the Christian God(s) work? Let's start there...if the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all omnipotent and all-powerful, what happens if one goes against the other? You'll most likely tell me that, "Well they all just act in concert, the NT says so!"...fine but if they are all powerful what is keeping them from not acting in concert? And how do we have more than one all powerful being in the first place? How can we ever have more than one all powerful being, as by the very definition of an all powerful being...there can only be *ONE*.[/quote]

God said that we will never understand but to have faith and to do his will Islam is the religion of blame and excuses is Hagar still whispering in your ear?
Remember Satan,the serpent and evil dwelt in the garden and truth is spoken aloud not whispered ...
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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God said that we will never understand but to have faith and to do his will Islam is the religion of blame and excuses is Hagar still whispering in your ear? Remember Satan,the serpent and evil dwelt in the garden and truth is spoken aloud not whispered ...
We can not accept a conception of God that is unreasonable, irrational and logically *impossible*. The God of Islam and the Jews is the only way for a God to ever be...one, with no partners, neither beggotten nor does he beget, with no beginning and no end. *Think* with the brain that God gave you and you may come to the same conclusion, don't simply blindly follow Paul the Pagan lover.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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Drawing a cartoon makes you guilty of inciting a riot? Only if people are predisposed to violence as a result of a cartoon.
People have been making anti Christian exhibits and Movies for years and I have yet to see any killings in response. On the other hand these wacked out groups respond violently time and time again. Sometimes the Apologist is our own countrymen or women

"The attack that killed four Americans at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, apparently began as a spontaneous protest against an anti-Islam film before turning violent", Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said Sunday.
BY NBC NEWS STAFF AND WIRE SERVICES



The people and their supporters making these exhibits and movies will be judged for their actions. And the people responding to these actions and their supporters will be judged by their actions.

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Old 05-29-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Prove what? Bikers have been major players in distributing and dealing methamphetamine and other drugs since the 1960s, everyone knows that... Drive around much of the rural or poorer suburban areas of the US and look at the toothless white trash spun out on crystal meth. The Mexican Mafia only got into it relatively recently--biker gangs have been in it for years. Add to that intimidation and murder they use to threaten any one who challenges them or potential rivals...yeah, maybe they should clean up their own kind before worrying about others.
Depends on the bike club...rodeos and runs for good causes toys at Christmas eggs & sweets at Easter ...not like islam that celebrated death on 9/11 with candies & sweets...
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Prove what? Bikers have been major players in distributing and dealing methamphetamine and other drugs since the 1960s, everyone knows that... Drive around much of the rural or poorer suburban areas of the US and look at the toothless white trash spun out on crystal meth. The Mexican Mafia only got into it relatively recently--biker gangs have been in it for years. Add to that intimidation and murder they use to threaten any one who challenges them or potential rivals...yeah, maybe they should clean up their own kind before worrying about others.
I think there are differences between motorcycle club members and biker gangs. Motorcycle club is just a group of guys that get together and share the same passion of riding, not necessarily causing trouble. My own brother likes to ride a Harley Davidson. My grandpa, uncles, my dad, they all like to ride a Harley.The ladies volunteered at our local veteran's hospital, all ride motorcycles. They might sometimes dress a certain way, they are just regular people who cause absolutely no troubles. They are very lovely people who don't hate anybody, but yes, they do have strong opinions about certain subjects. But don't we all?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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Depends on the bike club...rodeos and runs for good causes toys at Christmas eggs & sweets at Easter ...not like islam that celebrated death on 9/11 with candies & sweets...
Oh wait, you think it might be wrong to lump in all criminal bikers dealing in meth and prostitution and murder with all bikers overall? You think that might be generalizing a bit too much?

"Islam" didn't celebrate on 9/11--there's no organized worldwide consensus of "Islam"--some Muslims celebrated, some didn't care, some thought it was all a conspiracy, some were sympathetic, some lost loved ones themselves, some were shocked and sad--you had a multitude of reactions as befits a huge chunk of the world's population that stretches across a lot of different cultures and demographic lines.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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We can not accept a conception of God that is unreasonable, irrational and logically *impossible*. The God of Islam and the Jews is the only way for a God to ever be...one, with no partners, neither beggotten nor does he beget, with no beginning and no end. *Think* with the brain that God gave you and you may come to the same conclusion, don't simply blindly follow Paul the Pagan lover.
Soon all of you will see the truth when the Lord returns God help you for your blaspheme and ignorance ...have a good day!
 
Old 05-29-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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I think there are differences between motorcycle club members and biker gangs. Motorcycle club is just a group of guys that get together and share the same passion of riding, not necessarily causing trouble. My own brother likes to ride a Harley Davidson. My grandpa, uncles, my dad, they all like to ride a Harley.The ladies volunteered at our local veteran's hospital, all ride motorcycles. They might sometimes dress a certain way, they are just regular people who cause absolutely no troubles.
If all Muslims are bad based on the actions of some, than why can't one judge all bikers bad as based on the actions of some?

Maybe, the "good" bikers secretly and tacitly support the "bad" bikers--perhaps deep down they're all criminals at heart. Why don't the peaceful Harley Davidson riders spend more time speaking out against the Hells Angels and Bandidos? I don't trust them...
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