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Old 06-01-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman View Post
We don't paint all Christians with the same brush as we do the Westboro Baptist Church. So why do you paint all Muslims with the same brush as the most radical among them?
Liberals DO paint all Christians with the same brush as they do the Westboro nuts. Just go back to any thread about them and you'll find all kinds of leftists talking about all Christians, not just those crazies. Selective memory or just the usual liberal double standard?

 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ummm...Maybe you don't live in an area with a large Muslim population.

We're talking about the US, not Turkey. Turkey, for years, branded itself as a SECULAR country. Did you even read what I wrote? Muslim woman who are secular Muslims don't cover their heads.

Where I live, the vast majority of Muslim women cover themselves head-to-toe.

What makes you think that most Muslim women in the US don't cover their heads? Or are you only saying this because you don't live in an area with lots of Muslims.

Do you find it acceptable to see a Muslim man wearing a T-shirt and jeans with his wife following behind him covered from head-to-toe? How does it make you feel knowing that far too many of these women are forced to dress like that?
There's a big world beyond where you live.

Female modesty and faith are connected in many religious denominations including Orthadox Jews and several Christian denominations. Some also demand a wife submit and defer to their husbands on all matters.

Hair is considered erotic in some cultures going back to ancient times. Many of these practices seem to assume men can not be expected to control themselves as if they were perpetual children. In other cases, modesty, especially amongst married women is a cultural thing.

Ever see an image of Virgin Mary without a hijab? This was about 700 years before Islam was formed.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You know darn well that the 9/11 hijackers flew those planes into buildings in the name of Islam. Lubitz didn't do that in the name of Lutheranism. I'm surprised that you didn't bring up Timothy McVey. He was Catholic but didn't blow up the Murrah Building in the name of Catholicism. So, what's your point?
That poster said Christians don't blow up planes.

Muslims did not build gas chambers to destroy 6 million Jews. The holocaust was carried out by Christians.

There's a fine blurred line between religion and political ideology throughout time.

Religion has been used to recruit and motivate the masses since forever.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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What a fine woman......http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgr...aan-hirsi-ali/

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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
That poster said Christians don't blow up planes.

Muslims did not build gas chambers to destroy 6 million Jews. The holocaust was carried out by Christians.

There's a fine blurred line between religion and political ideology throughout time.

Religion has been used to recruit and motivate the masses since forever.
Yes whatever you say!
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
That poster said Christians don't blow up planes.

Muslims did not build gas chambers to destroy 6 million Jews. The holocaust was carried out by Christians.

There's a fine blurred line between religion and political ideology throughout time.

Religion has been used to recruit and motivate the masses since forever.
Not true at all.

Even if it is true, why is it relevant for this particular discussion?
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is so ridiculous. The flight attended could and should have given the woman an unopened can.
Assuming the story is an accurate reflection of what happened.

That someone claims this happened does not mean it did.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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I wager most bigots don't recognize or care if there's a difference. Remember the McCain "Obama is an Arab" lady?
That is my high school's claim to fame. That town hall meeting!
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
If you bothered to read through this thread I mentioned already that Orthodox Jewish women dress conservatively as do the men. You don't see the men wearing T-shirts and jeans while their wives are conservatively dressed. Why aren't Muslim men wearing traditional Muslim garb when their wives and daughters are dressed that way?
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Bold: You are lying. The poster is open to discussion with people who don't show willful ignorance and/or hate regarding Islam.

How do you go from dress to treatment/abuse? You think Muslim men "own" bad treatment/abuse? Do you know how many women died at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends because of bad treatment/abuse - and they weren't Muslims. How many children have been removed from homes or died as a result of abuse by fathers and/or mothers - and the father and/or mother wasn't a Muslim.

Yeah, I'm sure you are the go-to man for Muslim men who talk about how they "treat" their women and girls. Or are you just the neighborhood shoulder to lean on and the Muslim women/girls confide in you?
What's sad is that I addressed this inquiry/accusation of his bolded above several pages back. *YET* he waits until that post is far back and posts the inquiry/accusation again. Clearly this shows that he is simply being willfully ignorant and/or trolling.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why are hijabs even allowed inside planes? God knows what you could hide behind them...


Everyone goes through the same metal detector.

TSA routinely confiscates guns, knives and the occasional machete or sword from people who intend to fly.

Passengers may carry on mace/ pepper spray. Anyone can bring on hand weights within their carry on.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Liberals DO paint all Christians with the same brush as they do the Westboro nuts. Just go back to any thread about them and you'll find all kinds of leftists talking about all Christians, not just those crazies. Selective memory or just the usual liberal double standard?
Most liberals identify as Christians. There are more than 40,000 Christian denominations in the U.S. Anyone can create a church/ denomination based on their personal beliefs. Most seem quite capable of distinguishing between mainstream and extreme when it come to Chritianity. Some don't seem to be able to do so as it relates to Muslims. They are also more likely to believe most Muslims are middle eastern.
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