Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
So, you've forgotten the 50 or so Pub votes to overturn the ACA? Very convenient amnesia.
If it's overturned, it will be seen as a Pub action, which in fact, it is.
Since they now have solid control of both houses of congress, it will be up to them to come up with a workable alternative.
Or not. The health care ball will be 100% in their court. It would be amusing to see how they fumble it.
Exactly right, and no matter what thet are saying publicly, Republicans are worried that the SC will rule against the law because they know it will **** off a lot of people and they have no way to fix it. They will then own it. I think secretely they are all crossing their fingers that the SC upholds the ACA so they can continue to rail against it without having to actually put forth any alternatives. You know, GOP business as usual. All talk and little else.
But the King v Burwell case is certainly a right wing action. And if the court rules for King et al, then the GOP will be like the dog that caught the car. They thought they got what they wanted so badly, but now what?
Republicans in Congress are worried the Supreme Court will hand them a major headache this month if it rules against the federal health insurance exchanges in more than 30 states, ending subsidies for millions of people.
“The politics of the King vs. Burwell case are extremely treacherous and tricky for Republicans because if the subsidies are thrown out by the court, Republicans are in the position of having to create a fix that would be seen as a problem by their most conservative supporters,” said John Ullyot, a GOP strategist and former senior Senate aide.
“There’s a chance Republicans will get more of the blame because they’re in control of the House and Senate. Unless they can produce legislation, the blame will rest in their corner.”
so how would it be a republican action if the scotus overturns the subsidies?
the ball may be in their court, but if they get out in front of the situation, assuming the scotus rules against the subsidies, the people will give them some leeway, and time to come up with a better system.
They haven't done a thing, so far. The time to get out in front is now past.
Quote:
the unworkable mess we had before? what kind of rubbish is that? the system worked before, and it was much better than it is now, it just needed some tweaking to make it better.
the previous system was less expensive, and less complicated than what we have now. as for dropping people after they got sick, i would bet that those people hit their policy limits. tough i know, but when teh policy says the insurance company will pay say $2,000,000, and you hit that limit, then guess what, the policy is done.
no fan of the ACA? really? you seem to be defending it a lot.
As I said, I'm no fan of the ACA. If you can quote a post of mine "defending" it, as you say, please do so.
I've been consistently saying that the court ruling in favor of the plaintiffs will create big troubles for the GOP.
Surely even you can see the difference in those two positions.
Quote:
and by the way, single payer may work for france, but given teh US demographics, it really wont scale up and work here.
But the King v Burwell case is certainly a right wing action. And if the court rules for King et al, then the GOP will be like the dog that caught the car. They thought they got what they wanted so badly, but now what?
7 Republicans in Congress are worried the Supreme Court will hand them a major headache this month if it rules against the federal health insurance exchanges in more than 30 states, ending subsidies for millions of people.
“The politics of the King vs. Burwell case are extremely treacherous and tricky for Republicans because if the subsidies are thrown out by the court, Republicans are in the position of having to create a fix that would be seen as a problem by their most conservative supporters,” said John Ullyot, a GOP strategist and former senior Senate aide.
“There’s a chance Republicans will get more of the blame because they’re in control of the House and Senate. Unless they can produce legislation, the blame will rest in their corner.”
Even though I benefit from the ACA I almost want to see this happen. The comedic value of watching the GOP get exactly what claim they want and then have no idea what to do with it would be priceless.
Now Obama wants to poo-poo the legal wording as a "mistake" and chastises SCOTUS for adhering to the law and their petty interpretation (according to him) of "established by the state". This not something he can fix with a pen by editing ACA at will.
Obama is the big American mistake. Can we poo-poo him out of office. Oh we can't legally because of the written law.
Exactly right, and no matter what thet are saying publicly, Republicans are worried that the SC will rule against the law because they know it will **** off a lot of people and they have no way to fix it. They will then own it. I think secretely they are all crossing their fingers that the SC upholds the ACA so they can continue to rail against it without having to actually put forth any alternatives. You know, GOP business as usual. All talk and little else.
I'll be very surprised if the court finds for the plaintiffs. But with the 4 hardcore right wingers plus one wishy-washy, they've consistently ruled against the public interest in recent years.
It will be entertaining political theater whichever way it goes, though.
This falls under the heading -Be careful what you ask for you may get what you want.
Maybe they were pandering to their constituency on the right and never thought it would come to this, a good deal of their core votes in swing states get health care under the ACA.
The Supreme Court needs to follow the law. It doesn't really matter what we think or feel. It's about the law. If they don't follow the law and just make decisions based on politics and based upon what people think or feel then our problems are much larger then just healthcare.
Obama is the big American mistake. Can we poo-poo him out of office. Oh we can't legally because of the written law.
Oh Petch, its really not so bad. Obama only has one year and seven months to go in office. That's only 589 days. You ought to be able to handle that.
Of course, you may not like the next President very much either. She doesn't appeal to everyone and was quite a supporter of health care reform herself!
Last edited by CaseyB; 06-10-2015 at 12:24 PM..
Reason: rude/personal
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
