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Old 06-13-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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If you looked black then you will be treated black there fore you will experience life as a black person.
Does this mean that very light skinned or albino black people will experience life as white people?

 
Old 06-13-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Rachel Dolezal, Spokane NAACP leader, falsely portrays herself as black, family says - Washington Times

Maybe she just feels like a black woman on the inside. Who are we to judge her?
Worked for Elizabeth Warren too. She got into school pretending she was a "native American."
 
Old 06-13-2015, 01:02 PM
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Does this mean that very light skinned or albino black people will experience life as white people?
No, because most people are intelligent enough to see they are still black people. Even you wrote that they are still black people although light skinned. The story about Pike County Ohio deals eloquently with this issue. "As Black as we Wish to be" When it comes to race you are what people think you are.
Pike County, OH: As Black as We Wish to Be - State of the Re:Union

"...in the Appalachian foothills of Ohio where, for a century, residents have shared the common bond of identifying as African-American despite the fact that they look white."
 
Old 06-13-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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South Park is always so ahead of the times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH5AR0CuRI
 
Old 06-13-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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No, because most people are intelligent enough to see they are still black people. Even you wrote that they are still black people although light skinned. The story about Pike County Ohio deals eloquently with this issue. "As Black as we Wish to be" When it comes to race you are what people think you are.
Pike County, OH: As Black as We Wish to Be - State of the Re:Union

"...in the Appalachian foothills of Ohio where, for a century, residents have shared the common bond of identifying as African-American despite the fact that they look white."
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying that if someone looks black, even if they are actually white, they are black because everyone else believes they are black. But a black person who looks white can never be white because they won't fool anyone? I generally consider myself to be a smart guy but this is really confusing me.
 
Old 06-13-2015, 01:30 PM
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Good, it is supposed to be confusing because it is illogical that we assign cultural and behavioral characteristics to individuals based only on how they look. I am reminded that when Lewis and Clark convinced a group of Native Americans that they were traveling with a "Black Man" and made all effort to explain that this man was different from them. Once York arrived and the Native Americans saw him they were confused because they not only couldn't see any thing different from him and the others but the name they gave him translated to "black skin white man."
 
Old 06-13-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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Good, it is supposed to be confusing because it is illogical that we assign cultural and behavioral characteristics to individuals based only on how they look. I am reminded that when Lewis and Clark convinced a group of Native Americans that they were traveling with a "Black Man" and made all effort to explain that this man was different from them. Once York arrived and the Native Americans saw him they were confused because they not only couldn't see any thing different from him and the others but the name they gave him translated to "black skin white man."
You're right, it is ridiculous to assign cultural and behavioral characteristics on any set of criteria other than actual behavior and culture. Which is why we don't do that (or at least, anyone who has ditched the silly reductionist idea of race being all about skin color). There are distinct genetic differences between the groups of people we commonly define as "races". We can even go further and divide them up into ethnic groups and still have pretty distinct genetic markers in most cases. If you want proof, there are genetic testing services out there than can tell you with a remarkable degree of accuracy what part of the planet your ancestors came from.
 
Old 06-13-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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Rachel Dolezal, Spokane NAACP leader, falsely portrays herself as black, family says - Washington Times

Maybe she just feels like a black woman on the inside. Who are we to judge her?
But if you're born a man but want to be a woman I have to call you that. if you're born white and want to be black I can't do that?

Now I am all confused.
 
Old 06-13-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Well...not much to say on this one. Too weird.

She's a nice looking lady, and if she has no black roots whatsoever, she's doing a pretty good job of making herself racially ambiguous. But she's definitely more white than anything else.

But then, a hell of a lot of African Americans are. Heck, even Henry Louis Gates is half white.

So is Obama...and he has no African American Blood in him.
 
Old 06-13-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Rachel Dolezal, Spokane NAACP leader, falsely portrays herself as black, family says - Washington Times

Maybe she just feels like a black woman on the inside. Who are we to judge her?
I want my race reassigned, at public expense.
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