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Old 03-02-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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Kinda like them depriving our ability to our right to keep & bear arms. Which is our constitutional right.
Well except for the fact that abortion is written nowhere into the Constitution. Roe V. Wade is classic legislation from the bench.
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's sad when requiring a safe environment becomes an obstacle.
Now why didn't they include clinics and offices that perform colonoscopies and liposuction in their bill, after all this is about safe environments. They didn't because this isn't about women's health it's intended purpose is to close clinics.


One of the results of this would be no clinics west of San Antonio near the New Mexico border, one of the congressmen actually said those people could go to a clinic in New Mexico. If this is about women's health why would it be alright to go to a clinic with lower standards.
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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It's sad that the proponents of this law cannot prove that the environment prior to this legislation was unsafe.
Not having admittance priveledges can be unsafe. There have been problems in clinics that are not set up for easy emergency services access.
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Now why didn't they include clinics and offices that perform colonoscopies and liposuction in their bill, after all this is about safe environments. They didn't because this isn't about women's health it's intended purpose is to close clinics.


One of the results of this would be no clinics west of San Antonio near the New Mexico border, one of the congressmen actually said those people could go to a clinic in New Mexico. If this is about women's health why would it be alright to go to a clinic with lower standards.

Sounds like a private business opportunity, now doesn't it. That is a big canvass of profits to be had.


There are hospitals all along that route....
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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Not having admittance priveledges can be unsafe. There have been problems in clinics that are not set up for easy emergency services access.
Can be????

The statistics show that it is much, much safer for women who have abortions, than it is for women who go through with pregnancies. Pregnancy poses a range of health risks and even death.

So, if Texas is so concerned with women's safety, then....
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If you perform your own abortion, they say that is your freedom to do that to your own body... Now, someone else performing, would make it murder............................................ ....................... Killing of another human life, other than your own............................................... .......... A whole new meaning to, "I brought you into this world, I can take you out"
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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If you perform your own abortion, they say that is your freedom to do that to your own body... Now, someone else performing, would make it murder............................................ ....................... Killing of another human life, other than your own............................................... .......... A whole new meaning to, "I brought you into this world, I can take you out"
I'll take the bait. It's not a person if it's not viable outside of the mother.
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Not having admittance priveledges can be unsafe. There have been problems in clinics that are not set up for easy emergency services access.
The risk of complications from colonoscopies is 2.8%, Abortion is .2%. The risk of death from Liposuction is higher than either.
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'll take the bait. It's not a person if it's not viable outside of the mother.
Who pulled it out of the womb to kill it's progress?
It is not like weeding the lawn.
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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It is not like weeding the lawn.
If you're making that analogy, I tremble to see your lawn...
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