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Old 07-03-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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Lets examine your question. "Why aren't automobiles built in garages?"

"Well that one is pretty simple, in order for a car to be street-legal, not only does it require certain safety-features, it also needs to be crash-tested, emissions-tested over a large distance, among other things.

Redshadow,

Please read this carefully. I did not ask "Why aren't care built in garages?" That was what YOU said I asked, apparently in a (futile) attempt to redirect my statement. Iknow you would prefer to go off on your tangent, but try to keep on track, OK?

Let me make this easier for you.

Please list all those automobiles in common use today that are NOT made by a Corporation.

There are two possible ways to answer this query:

Way One --"I cannot find any such cars"; or

Way Two--"I have found the following list:

1.
2. and so on.

I believe you will if pressed have to either use way one
(can't find any), or fall back on way two but list some very limited production model (s) that are custom built for enthusiasts. Either way you would prove my point about the OP, that he/she is being hypocritical for condemning International Corporations while enjoying the benefits those corporations bring.

I know this will be hard for you; I know you would prefer to lecture and hypothesize about what COULD be, but my question dealt with what actually is.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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If you don't quit saying corporations and not adding crony corporations to it, you are going on ignore.
There is BIG difference Jack.

You reign in the Crony Corporations and Banks by shrinking the government.[/url]
Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think

Go!
Put me on ignore, I dont give a ****. ALL corporations will come to cronyism if they are allowed to.
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But Crony Corporations and Banks want a Big Government to serve them so that is not going to happen.
HELLO? Anyone home? EVERYONE nowadays wants government to serve them.. All the way down to the single mother with 85 kids with 49 different baby daddies...
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Tell me how you would go about shrinking the government when DC does not even listen to the majority of Americans but only to wealthy interests.

https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/
Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think

Go!
Which proves the problem is POLITICIANS.. Your own posting now disputes the validity of the thread...

Our whole system got completely screwed up when we changed the Constitution to elect the Senate to represent the people, not the states.

/thread end
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who are you voting for next election?
What does that have to do with all the public employees forfeiting their pensions, which are funded by corporate profits, dividends, and stock value? Have they done so yet?
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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What does that have to do with all the public employees forfeiting their pensions, which are funded by corporate profits, dividends, and stock value? Have they done so yet?
Only when all the right wing people in red states stop accepting their welfare payments from blue states.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:16 PM
 
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Put me on ignore, I dont give a ****. ALL corporations will come to cronyism if they are allowed to.

HELLO? Anyone home? EVERYONE nowadays wants government to serve them.. All the way down to the single mother with 85 kids with 49 different baby daddies...

Which proves the problem is POLITICIANS.. Your own posting now disputes the validity of the thread...

Our whole system got completely screwed up when we changed the Constitution to elect the Senate to represent the people, not the states.

/thread end
And as I have said before, those politicians are not your average American from Joe's Plumbing or from Stan's Hardware but people from Multinational Corporations. There is a conflict of interest there.

If DC was full of Joe's from Joe's Plumbing, anything they did in regards to regulations and laws would not only hurt their competition but themselves as well.

Multinational Corporations can shrug it off and pay it no problem but kill the little guy.

They tailor regulations and laws to kill the small business competition and then leave DC to their nice cushy job back at one of the multinational companies

That is how it works and that is not Free Market Capitalism.

If you want to protect it fine, but we need to relabel our economic system from Capitalism to Corporate Fascism.

Deal?
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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And as I have said before, those politicians are not your average American from Joe's Plumbing or from Stan's Hardware but people from Multinational Corporations.

They tailor regulations and laws to kill the small business competition and then leave DC to their nice cushy job back at one of the multinational companies

That is how it works and that is not Free Market Capitalism.

If you want to protect it fine, but we need to relabel our economic system from Capitalism to Corporate Fascism.

Deal?
So you admit the problem is politicians, but somehow attack me, a huge advocate of free market capitslism anyways?
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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I'd like to commend the OP for his courage in creating this thread.
Had he tried it one year ago he would have been lucky to get three people to agree with his position. So people are waking up. That it's done during the 4th of July is fitting. If one was to read the Declaration of Independence and the list of grievances they would see that we are not yet at a point that would require a repeat or new declaration. But that is the direction we are headed. Too many people are still to comfortable and unwilling to risk personal gains.

The English once thought they could not exist without the King.
Eventually the compromise was to retain the monarchy while striping the power from royalty. Turns out they did not disappear when that was done. They still have the monarchy, but what is it without power to govern. It makes them feel good. That is the position of those who oppose the OP. The corporation is their King and they want you to believe we can't exist without it.

Once the world was thought to be flat. That is again the position of those who oppose the OP and his supporters.
Where once they did deny the existence of New World Order. The evidence is overwhelming to the contrary. They now say, OK, it does exist, you found us out, but it's good for you, because I am benefiting from it. It's only when their job is outsourced, automated, or obsolete will they join the growing choir. The pain of unemployment or accepting lower wages is not their reality. Unable to imagine that the NWO will divide this country, over time, into two classes. The elites, and slaves that they control. A third world country little different from the ones to the south. That is the new American Dream of the oligarchs.

Nation-less Corporations are a tentacle of the "Beast"
The seaman of the 1600's were frightened of sailing to far towards the end of the earth. They told stories of encounters with strange creatures like a giant squid. Similarly we have the NWO which is a "Beast" with a thousand tentacles. Created by those who have more money than God, as the saying goes. What they want is power. They use their money to grow their tentacles to suck blood and treasure from everything within reach. They hire people and organize working 24/7 to that end. Every aspect of American life is under assault. The uppercut that knocks us out should be Trade Agreements and the use of uncontrolled Nationless Corporations. If we do regain conciseness, at some point in the future, we won't recognize this country because it will be assimilate. What's needed is to drive a stake into the heart of this beast. That is the only way to kill it. Freeing yourself from the tentacle's is only a battle to that end.

If the act of voting is important. Then I vote this the most important thread on the forum. The other ones no more than a "tentacle of the beast" to distract and scatter the attention of peasants leading to defeat.

To those who are awake I say: Live everyday like it's the 4th of July. Be the prince that kisses Sleeping Beauty and welcome them. Let them know that the world is round. There is a beast that needs to be driven from the land of our homes. Let them know we don't need a king ( corporation ).

The only person running for President that has called for a revolution is Bernie Sanders. He called for "political revolution". Non violent revolution is the best way forward. If we have to accept greater socialism temporary in order to survive we can correct that later after the greater threat of slavery from NWO is vanquished.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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Oh, good grief. More mindlessness.

Democrat voters are particularly bad at shouldering their own responsibilities:




"Hardly surprising, we see that in a two-party split, 60-80% of welfare recipients are Democrats, while full time Workers are evenly divided between parties.You have similar results in this recent NPR-Poll (http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2011/12/poll/topline.pdf). Among the Long Term Unemployed, 72% of the two-party support goes to Democrats."

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That still leaves many millions of GOP voters that are voting against their own interests.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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So you admit the problem is politicians, but somehow attack me, a huge advocate of free market capitslism anyways?
The difference is, I do not see a dividing line between the Big Multinationals and Banks and Government as you do.

They are one and the same and feed off each other, and the small business and citizen pay for it

It is not an attack against capitalism but fascists that have taken over our government to serve themselves and their cronies.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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That still leaves many millions of GOP voters that are voting against their own interests.
The overwhelming majority of public assistance recipients are Democrat voters. Convince them to give up their corporation-paid welfare and you might get somewhere on this.
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