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Old 07-03-2015, 06:10 AM
 
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https://feminist.org/blog/index.php/...-for-students/

Surprise — teens are having sex. How can we make it safer? | Grist
Though they can't get a soda or bag of chips, students as early as 6th grade can get an IUD or hormone birth control without parental permission nor knowledge. While relatively safe, there are some risk with IUDs and other forms of birth control. I wonder if the school is open to a civil suit should a student have an injury or adverse complication of the BC given without the parents' knowledge nor permission? While the state of Washington has made it legal to provide birth control to students without parents knowledge nor permission, does this also absolve the school of penalties of a civil suit should the student need hospital care for a reaction or vaginal injury? While these methods are fine for preventing pregnancy, they offer absolutely zero protection against STDs. Condoms offer protection from both pregnancy and STDs. Based upon the article, it seems as if the sole focus of the program is about preventing pregnancy. How much of a focus do they give to preventing STDs? AIDS is still around and has been on the increase again. Some STDs can't be cured with a shot.
AND if any of the items you cite fail, is the school system going to be responsible for the medical care, baby delivery and continued financial support for the child?

Many a business have been held accountable when their product or service failed.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:12 AM
 
Location: DFW
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What is truly hard to believe is that 6th graders are having sex.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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You people just don't seem to get it, do you?

As much as people might not like to admit it, the world raises your child, not you. The environment your child grows up in will determine how they think about certain subjects like sex, and what they will view as normal and what is not, not you. Children are not raised in a vacuum. They are not immune from the worlds influence. The influence of society will be what shapes young minds.

So the fact that we see high birth rates in kids who grow up in Conservative homes, in a world that says promiscuous sex is ok, proves nothing. The world says casual sex and promiscuity are ok, through the sex saturated pop culture and media, therefore, kids will grow up thinking it's ok. Society says that drug use is ok by glamourizing it, so therefore we're seeing pushes to legalize drugs. It's why homosexuality is now accepted by the majority ( which is a good thing )

On the opposite side of the spectrum, smoking cigarettes used to be viewed as normal, but since has been stigmatized, and we're seeing all time low smoking rates.

What were the birthrates 100 years ago when the world took a far more Conservative stance on sex? It used to be that having sex outsideof marriage was looked down upon and brought shame to yourself.

Programs like this one only serve to tell kids that it's ok to have all the sex you want, and there won't be consequences for promiscuous behavior. As long as that's the attitude adopted by the public at large, it won't matter how Conservatively one raises their child, they'll adopt the attitude and behavior that the rest of the world says is ok and normal.

What a bunch of bullcrap. I guess in your world back in the '50s when "the world" thought sex was a taboo subject, teen mothers were stigmatized and had their babies taken and couples on TV slept in separate beds fewer teens got pregnant, huh?

Birthrate for U.S. teens is lowest in history

Aside from an increase in the 90s, teen birthrates have been FALLING for decades.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Seeing how we all complain about Feral teens and parents who don't give a crap / no involvement, I don't see this as a negative if done correctly.
If we can prevent 13 year old girls from getting pregnant maybe we can cut down on abortions and change a few lives for the better.

Please stop the BS that Conservatives are against these programs.
Excellent points. Providing free BC to teens is right on target. I have no problem with that. Many state universities do the same thing. But it should be condoms and other barrier methods, etc. Teen girls really shouldn't be taking hormones or have uterine implants, as both can cause serious health complications even in adults.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Just more normalization of the free love, promiscuous type culture that libs love so much.

What's next? Free abortions for 5th graders?
Nah, they'll have to pledge two weeks of their allowance as a co-pay. That's liberal accountability.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Good.

Teenagers have sex. It's better to teach them ways to do so safely than to just tell they it's immoral or whatever the reactionaries would have them do.

And for those who say the problem is that parents don't know, why exactly don't the parents know? Do the parent's not talk to their kids? If that's the case, it's entirely their fault.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Good.

Teenagers have sex. It's better to teach them ways to do so safely than to just tell they it's immoral or whatever the reactionaries would have them do.

And for those who say the problem is that parents don't know, why exactly don't the parents know? Do the parent's not talk to their kids? If that's the case, it's entirely their fault.
What bothers me even more is the parents who DO know their kids are having sex but do nothing to educate them on, or help them acquire, contraceptives. There's actually an entire culture built on that concept. I'll let a female Black artist explain:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40WjBKWI
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I don't see the issue with this....why is it bad for teens to have access to birth control? Isn't it a good thing when teens aren't getting pregnant?
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Good.

Teenagers have sex. It's better to teach them ways to do so safely than to just tell they it's immoral or whatever the reactionaries would have them do.

And for those who say the problem is that parents don't know, why exactly don't the parents know? Do the parent's not talk to their kids? If that's the case, it's entirely their fault.
This article isn't about teaching teens about sex.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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Amazing the sheer stupidity and ignorance of some of the posts on here.

Obviously many of you if any have never been the parents of female teens much less been responsible for their medical care.

Yeah let's just pass the **** out like frigging candy with absolutely no care as to it's proper use and medical followup.

Oh and don't tell Mommy and Daddy litle girls it will just be our little secret.

Like a bunch of drug pushing pedophile freaks.

What a buncha scumbags.
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