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Old 07-04-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Originally Posted by Supachai View Post
The business is a privately owned business. The simple fact they allow people to walk in freely doesn't negate that fact.
That people can walk in freely makes it also a public accommodation. And there are laws prohibiting discrimination by public accommodations.

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Why is the law applied to only one party in a business transaction? You think that's fair? You don't believe in equality under the law?
It's pretty clear you don't understand the law at all.

 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Uh, because only one party was violating it? Or can you cite a law requiring shoppers to patronize certain businesses? Like it or not a business open to the public will be held to certain regulations, there are no regulations requiring the public to patronize them.
Okay, so you agree that the law is not applied equally and that by that standard it violates the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution. You should have just said so in the first place instead of acting like you didn't understand what I was saying.

Your only point seems to be, "That's the law. Fair or not, deal with it."
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What is rich if this "Christian" baking couple would have turned away a BLACK customer instead! Because they would know a Lawsuit was coming!
Sorry but I don't have sympathy for bigots!
Gee, the last time I checked the Bible there was nothing that would prohibit a Christian from participation in the wedding of a black couple.

Objecting to and refusing to participate in something that mocks God is not bigotry. Sorry. Check your definition. Bigotry is unreasonable discrimination, or hatred of an ethnic or religious group that is based on their religion or ethnicity. But we are called to uses discernment (discriminate) in our relationships, and to not be a party to evil. That is not bigotry.
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Supachai View Post
Okay, so you agree that the law is not applied equally and that by that standard it violates the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution. You should have just said so in the first place instead of acting like you didn't understand what I was saying.

Your only point seems to be, "That's the law. Fair or not, deal with it."
I said NOTHING of then kind, stop trying to twist things around. It's completely incorrect to say the law is not applied equally because it does not apply to the public as it does to a business. Your (il)logic is akin to saying speed laws are not applied equally because drivers get speeding tickets and pilots don't.
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Supachai
You haven't even countered my point that Civil Rights laws are applied unequally. I'm well aware of what the anti-discrimination laws state. They violate the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution.

Why is the law applied to only one party in a business transaction? You think that's fair?"


Yes, that is fair. The business is the one open to the public.
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by helenejen View Post
That people can walk in freely makes it also a public accommodation. And there are laws prohibiting discrimination by public accommodations.

It's pretty clear you don't understand the law at all.
No. I do understand the law and the law is unconstitutional.
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No. I do understand the law and the law is unconstitutional.
Gee, and you weren't appointed to the SCOTUS, why is that?
 
Old 07-04-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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I said NOTHING of then kind, stop trying to twist things around. It's completely incorrect to say the law is not applied equally because it does not apply to the public as it does to a business. Your (il)logic is akin to saying speed laws are not applied equally because drivers get speeding tickets and pilots don't.
Terrible analogy. Do pilots ride on the same roads as car drivers?

The business is privately owned. Being open to the public doesn't change that fact. You have two parties in a business transaction and a law that only applies to one party. Do business owners have a different set of rights? According to anti-discrimination laws, they do, which violates the Equal Protection clause. I don't know what's so difficult to comprehend about this.
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