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Iran wants to have nuclear weapons.. they will have nuclear weapons and no treaty will stop them..
look at North Korea.. Clinton gave them oil and billions and they had a treaty with the United States not to make nuclear weapons... guess what? North Korea has nuclear weapons.
They aren't one of our strongest allies. Japan is a leech. The benefits of our relationship have ALL been one sided. They've given us nothing in exchange for spending our billions to defend them.
What has Japan ever done for the United States?
Are you serious in your counter points or are you just waiting for more liberal support?
This picture sums it all up. The Iranian regime is laughing hysterically (and incredulously) at how easily they got whatever they wanted - nuclear bomb-making capability, limited inspections, almost immediate lifting of sanctions bringing in tens of billion$, no limits on their ballistic missile manufacturing, lifting the UN embargo on arms imports, no restrictions on their terrorism and aggression throughout the region, no demand for improvement in their horrible human rights record. You name it, they got it.
If I were them, I would be doing exactly what that Zarif is doing - laughing my brains out.
Not sure which is more laughable. The fact that you made up that Obama came up with these negotiations (it was multinational) or the fact that you fabricated the outcome the way you did. All in all, it seems that the only thing that has changed is that we bring Iran into the to global community, and with that, have more (not less) leverage over them.
If there is a bad side effect, it is that the introduction of Iranian Oil to the global market will put further downward pressure on the price. I have to assume that conservatives are applauding the removal of artificial market forces (but I know they aren't, because that talking point of theirs is really just lip service).
When you rely on the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) concept, you're assigning the rationality of the other governments to the radical Iranian leadership. You're saying that there is nothing to fear because the mullahs will not use their nukes due to the fear of mutual destruction. Well, read the relevant paragraph in the linked article:
"Fundamentally, a nuclear Iran represents a unique threat. The fear of mutually assured destruction has long restrained other nuclear powers. There is a real risk that the Iranian leadership is not rational, that driven by its mad hatreds, it will act in ways that are unreasonable, even self-destructive. Anti-Americanism is a cornerstone of the ideology of this Islamic state. The virulence of Iran's hostility is impervious to reason. "Death to America!" has provoked the Iranian street for over a quarter of a century and is the venom upon which an entire generation of Iranians has been raised. The dominant Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reiterates that Iran's differences with America are more fundamental than political differences. Whatever may happen to the leadership over time, the inescapable fact is that the United States just cannot take the risk of nuclear missiles in the hands of a clerical regime that preaches genocide. It is pathetic that appeasement continues to beguile." The World Cannot Live With the Threat of a Nuclear Iran - US News and World Report
And again, unlike the current nuclear powers, their worldview is dominated by an apocalyptic religious vision: Extra - WSJ.com
There is a significant risk that the MAD doctrine which applied in the cold war will not deter a group which sees itself obligated to fullfill the radical tenets of its religion.
History will prove Obama and Kerry to be the Neville Chamberlains of the 21st century. This deal will not stop the radical Islamists in Iran in their quest for nuclear weaponization.
Here we go again with Godwin. You guys always think that any avoidance of outright war is Chamberlainesque.
There is always a risk with MAD...that's life. Deal with it.
We're not going to war with Iran over this issue, nor should we.
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