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Old 07-29-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Then find an article that proves what you are saying....
Do you really need an article that proves that overeating results in obesity?

Good grief, how uninformed can you be?!?!!!!
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Do you really need an article that proves that overeating results in obesity?

Good grief, how uninformed can you be?!?!!!!
Good grief, why can't you find ONE article to corroborate your conclusions? I'm sorry in the real world, things are more complicated than being an armchair statistician/researcher.

These are the findings from the only research you could muster:

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From the data they have, the researchers can’t tell for sure why food stamps seem to lead to unhealthy eating practices, Zagorsky said. But there are clues.

Government statistics showed that the average recipient received $81 in food stamps per month in 2002, the last year examined in this study.

“That figure was shocking to me.” Zagorsky said. “I think it would be very difficult for a shopper to regularly buy healthy, nutritious food on that budget.”

That’s because calorie-dense, high-fat, processed foods tend to be less expensive than more healthy choices.

Zagorsky said policymakers should aim at changing the types of food that program participants purchase.

Those on food stamps could be required to take a course on nutrition. In addition, recipients who purchase fresh fruit and vegetables and other low-fat products could be given more benefits or receive discounts on these products, he said.

“Modifying the Food Stamp Program to include economic incentives to eat healthier might be an important tool for fighting obesity,”
No one is denying overeating causes obesity, you're erroneously trying to link it to SNAP users. Can you prove it? That's what everyone is waiting on.... and again.... please actually read what you post or it's going to get shredded apart....
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Good grief, why can't you find ONE article to corroborate your conclusions?
Seriously? You need "an article" to corroborate the fact that those who overeat become obese?
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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How is this thread still going on?
Poor people in a wealthy society are always more often obese. This is true throughout the world regardless. Cheap calories today are heavily processed, loaded with fat, chemicals, and grease. Natural food is more of a premium.

It's poor societies that have fat wealthy people and skinny poor people. You can always tell a poor society by the beauty ideal images of heavier women who can afford to eat
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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How is this thread still going on?
Poor people in a wealthy society are always more often obese.
Good point. Our country's public assistance recipients are getting too much in welfare benefits and are becoming disproportionately obese.
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Old 07-29-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Good point. Our country's public assistance recipients are getting too much in welfare benefits and are becoming disproportionately obese.
You're confusing two topics.
The quality of calories- not the amount - poor people can afford, with or without welfare, makes them overall fatter and less healthy than the general population. Day to day stress adds to this.

Where their money comes from for whatever basic food they can get is irrelevant. Though, as a Chrsitan, it is against my personal morals to starve people simply for being poor.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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Seriously? You need "an article" to corroborate the fact that those who overeat become obese?
Bless your heart, you didn't respond to my entire post again.

Here's the part you missed:

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No one is denying overeating causes obesity, you're erroneously trying to link it to SNAP users. Can you prove it? That's what everyone is waiting on.... and again.... please actually read what you post or it's going to get shredded apart....
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Good point. Our country's public assistance recipients are getting too much in welfare benefits and are becoming disproportionately obese.
Still waiting on you to prove it.... Can't even find one article to back up the bolded......
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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You're confusing two topics.
The quality of calories- not the amount - poor people can afford, with or without welfare, makes them overall fatter and less healthy than the general population. Day to day stress adds to this.

Where their money comes from for whatever basic food they can get is irrelevant. Though, as a Chrsitan, it is against my personal morals to starve people simply for being poor.
Who's starving? No one. Food stamp recipients are disproportionately OBESE.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Still waiting on you to prove it.... Can't even find one article to back up the bolded......
I've already done so: the OIG.

"...FNS commissioned a study that detailed the extent of multiple participation in four major FNS programs—SNAP, WIC, SBP, and NSLP—for a 4-month period in 2006. The study reported that among the families that participated in at least one of the four major programs, about 41 percent participated in only one, and 59 participated in two or more programs."

http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27001-0001-10.pdf

59% of families participating in a major FNS public assistance food program participate in 2 or more programs simultaneously, stacking the duplication of free (for them) public assistance food benefits.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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I've already done so: the OIG.

"...FNS commissioned a study that detailed the extent of multiple participation in four major FNS programs—SNAP, WIC, SBP, and NSLP—for a 4-month period in 2006. The study reported that among the families that participated in at least one of the four major programs, about 41 percent participated in only one, and 59 participated in two or more programs."

http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27001-0001-10.pdf

59% of families participating in a major FNS public assistance food program participate in 2 or more programs simultaneously, stacking the duplication of free (for them) public assistance food benefits.
Nope. Try again. You've already been told why your conclusions aren't valid.
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