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Old 07-25-2015, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They can't be bothered to drive the 35 mi. to Seattle from Tacoma or Puyalupp? If you call that poverty, then I have some land on Lake Washington I want to sell you.

You know most people in the world don't live alone. They live with extended family or they often quadruple and quintuple up with housemates. It's been known to occur in the U.S.

Also if Amazon needs maids they can build company housing like employers did 100 years ago.
No, one would just get a minimum wage job closer to their home in Centralia than commute all the way to Seattle. So no, you never answered my question with how much does it cost to rent in Seattle, not in towns outside of the metro.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Which is a point against the need to raise minimum wage in high cost areas to balance the COL -- if people really can't afford to live in the city at minimum wage, employers won't be able to hire enough people and wages will go up not by law, but by supply and demand.

In practice this happens less than you'd expect because many of the people working minimum wage jobs aren't paying that high cost of living -- they're teenagers or young adults living with their parents or are in government-subsidized housing. If teenagers aren't being paid a living wage, not the end of the world. With regards to the public housing folks, we shouldn't be putting public housing in places where the working class can't afford the rent as it's both inefficient and unfair, and if that's who is working these jobs (the case in NYC), move the public housing and working class wages will rise to the minimum needed to allow people to live somewhere within a reasonable commute at market rent, because otherwise there will be no-one to do the work.

If you have a large low-skill workforce not paying the cost of living and expensive private housing, then of course you're going to squeeze out the working class people not being housed by the government, because you've removed the cost of living floor on market wages.
None of this is a good argument against minimum wage.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Drug test all that are on Welfare or going on Welfare. Billions of money to be saved here. Work for your money.
As soon as we drug test our politicians first. They should lead by example.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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You really are unaware?

Well in most states a rather significant amount of effort is expended in making sure only eligible people can vote.
Apparently they can:

Illegal voting investigation grows dramatically - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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2012? So what did they discover from this potential issue?
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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2012? So what did they discover from this potential issue?
greywar stated that illegals could not vote. I gave an example of where they did. Sorry you have a problem with accepting that reality.
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Old 07-25-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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greywar stated that illegals could not vote. I gave an example of where they did. Sorry you have a problem with accepting that reality.
Then maybe that republican governor needs to do something about this
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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greywar stated that illegals could not vote. I gave an example of where they did. Sorry you have a problem with accepting that reality.
Actually you did not, the article stated possibly, not that it was actually happening. Seeing it was in 2012, I asked what the outcome from that investigation was? Do you by any chance know or did you not follow through with this article?
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Old 07-26-2015, 08:19 AM
 
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Then maybe that republican governor needs to do something about this
Why, so liberals can then demagogue him about "suppressing minority votes"? You people really are too much some times.
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Old 07-26-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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Ha. Minimum wage is for 12-14 year olds. Not for grown people looking for SSI, and life insurance.
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