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Old 08-04-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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How would you know? You seem to have zero acquaintance with independent thought because you just spew lefty talking points.
Because you are a Neo Con. Neo Cons by definition are not independent thinkers. Anymore than Ultra liberals are. Extremists toe the party line with little independent or creative thought.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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Because you are a Neo Con. Neo Cons by definition are not independent thinkers.
I am guessing you don't realize how silly the above comment is.

a "neo" anything indicates a new or newer way of approaching a subject. thus "by definition" a "neo-con" is in fact an independent thinker.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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You don't get it. Read my earlier posts about availability, cost vs public cost etc. Try to think rationally about it.
I dont support the public cause either.. To justify we need to expand handouts in order to minimize another handout which shouldnt exist, is stupidity.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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I am guessing you don't realize how silly the above comment is.

a "neo" anything indicates a new or newer way of approaching a subject. thus "by definition" a "neo-con" is in fact an independent thinker.
means nothing. what do you think the word progressive means....

it's not the label it's the action that counts
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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I am guessing you don't realize how silly the above comment is.

a "neo" anything indicates a new or newer way of approaching a subject. thus "by definition" a "neo-con" is in fact an independent thinker.
OoooOOOoo Neato! That's the best argument you can come up with? Okay, I apologize. From now on they will be known as Nonliberalfakeconservatives. Happy?
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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I dont support the public cause either.. To justify we need to expand handouts in order to minimize another handout which shouldnt exist, is stupidity.
True. But, it is what it is. I'd rather handout an office visit and birth control pills than continually handout for 72 or so years. It's the cheaper of the two handouts.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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OoooOOOoo Neato! That's the best argument you can come up with? Okay, I apologize. From now on they will be known as Nonliberalfakeconservatives. Happy?
well I suppose you can use whatever pejorative you wish.

anyone that doesn't think the way you tell them to will be some form of "neo con" or "nonlibblahblah"


at the end of the day, anyone who does not think the way they are told by the prog-agressives is some kind of monster who should be forced from society. death threats are ok. ruination of business is ok. getting people fired, kicked out of school, effectively handed the Scarlet Letter.... those are the thinks the prog-agressives do.


Back to Neo-Con.... your line about not being able to think on your own... Neo-Cons are a well defined group within the conservative arena that boast a number of very powerful intellectuals.

your charge is nonsense. beyond that the neo-con political thought centers primarily around US foreign policy with a focus on the use of US military power as a force for good and the spread of democracy around the globe. There is very little focus on domestic policy and where there is, the neo-con is not opposed to government spending per-say. In fact the existence of debt is nowhere as upsetting to the neo-con as it is to other parts of the conservative movement.

Neo-Cons are far less worked up by things like gay rights and abortion.
for instance Dick Cheney is supportive of gay marriage.


it is very silly to suggest that someone is a "neo-con" and therefore unable to think for themselves on its face. it is even more ridiculous to suggest someone is a neo-con in a thread about domestic policy that isn't even a focus of neo-con policy.


May I suppose you just like to call people names? and that you have decided that "neo-con" is a terrible name? and since its uber illiberal, its ok to call people that?


LOL.

stay classy
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Why would you close a clinic that provides education and birth control, isn't that counter productive. Also I don't believe many of these women at the low end have easy access in their areas.
They wouldnt be closed. PP would still offer those services and then bill the insurance company for the individuals.. The only difference is they wont be able to double dip..
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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True. But, it is what it is. I'd rather handout an office visit and birth control pills than continually handout for 72 or so years. It's the cheaper of the two handouts.
1) They would still be providing medical services and still billing the patients insurance company for birth control etc..
2) And how do you know the babies would become recipient of "handouts"? lots of people go on to become productive members of society.

To conclude that failure of a parent means the children will fail, is a huge indication as to why the handouts shouldnt exist in the first place. its one thing to help those struggling, its quite another to maintain poverty.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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Back to the subject at hand... and leaving behind pointing out silliness...


BIRTH CONTROL IS NOW FREE BY MANDATE OF THE GOVERNMENT.

WHAT PART OF THIS IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND????????????????????????????????????
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