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Let's make broad brush comparisons of hundreds of thousands of police officers in two different countries by comparing two videos. What could possibly go wrong.
I would never argue that this is a definitive study for comparative purposes, just as I wouldn't argue that how police interact within the same department as being conclusive evidence of organizational cultural differences, in and of themselves. But there is significant evidence outside of the two videos outside of these two videos that would in fact demonstrate difference in organizational culture.
I would never argue that this is a definitive study for comparative purposes, just as I wouldn't argue that how police interact within the same department as being conclusive evidence of organizational cultural differences, in and of themselves. But there is significant evidence outside of the two videos outside of these two videos that would in fact demonstrate difference in organizational culture.
Please explain this non anecdotal significant other evidence that shows across the board systemic abuse.
Let's make broad brush comparisons of hundreds of thousands of police officers in two different countries by comparing two videos. What could possibly go wrong.
30 cops to take down one guy...... cops are macing themselves..... hiding behind trash cans..... running away.... what a bunch of wussies, that lot! LOL
But I get your point
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In America, there's more of an "us vs. them" mentality between cops and citizens. They seem to have forgotten here, that they are peace officers, charged with serving the public, not lording over them.
In Britain firearms are regarded as somewhat obscene, and people don't want to see them on a daily basis, so there's a strong reluctance to give police firearms unless they have to deal with extremely dangerous situations. Times when police have been armed and have killed innocent people are very well remembered and brought out as reasons not to give guns to the police. Americans are widely regarded as close to insane, by going around armed and regularly killing each other, police officers trying to do their jobs, and conversely accepting that police officers will be so frightened of people they encounter that they'll shoot unarmed people--as I said, that's happened in Britain too, and it's in people's minds.
Please explain this non anecdotal significant other evidence that shows across the board systemic abuse.
Would you care to point to my statement regarding across the board and systematic abuse? What I am pointing to is an across the board difference in approach one of which can lead to abuse and one that doesn't. If you don't think that there is a necessary difference in approach to armed suspects when you are yourself are unarmed as opposed to when you are, then I think that you are missing more than the point of the two videos.
In the video of the girl being shot in the police station, I am not making a claim that police used excessive force much less unlawfully. But there is a difference in the culture of American police policy with over reliance on force multiplication verses how one has to respond when force multiplication isn't possible. And I think the the contrast between the videos and others that I can produce illustrates.
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