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Do you have a point?
I'm glad someone else picked up on that.
Predictably, as soon a was placed on this section of the forum, from Reply #1 on, the discussion got pigeonholed into politics. I don't know if that was the OPs intent or not?
Had it been put in the food or other topics forums, the discussion would have likely centered around the consumer experience with such kiosks (i.e. are they consumer friendly/convenient or yet another way service has become more depersonalized?, is the accuracy better, etc.).
No one is 'giddy' about robots taking away jobs. It's that robots taking away jobs of people demanding their wages be arbitrarily doubled is so predictable, yet Leftists couldn't anticipate that consequence.
Leftists can't think clearly at all, and doom their followers.
Well once the big three automakers once employed 3 million blue collar working men and a few women making fewer cars than less than 300,000 do today . Detroit wouldn't have square miles of vacant lots and decaying buildings that were once Ford, GM, Chrystler or AMC plants and have over a million more people as would Flint and its suburbs and the small cities that dot that part of the Midwest. The big 3 also outsources all the parts needed to make those cars from small machine shots and people making glass steel, rubber and paid thousands of truckers and rail people to get all the parts to the big assembly plants in SE Michigan . it was estimated about 15 million workers in those industries owed their jobs to the American car makers. Changing technology, materials and process engineering and auto design is one reason they don't make basic. steel any more in Youngstown and the Pittsburgh area. Also todays big 3 find it makes more sense to build whole engines and other machined assemblies in Brazil, Mexico, Italy Spain, Thailand, Korea and even China.
So I think the question about how automation and changing business procedures being nothing but pure GOOD needs to be thought over long and hard, because telling replaced or surplus workers to go off and get an education on their own nickel to qualify new jobs that won't be there or competing for temporary low wage jobs with their kids isn't really cutting it and hasn't ever since 1980. Half of the manufacturing jobs in the USA have disappeared since 1980 and 80% of them before we even opened up trade with China in 1999 .
You haven't seen anything yet.
In the near future cars and trucks will be self driven and with much more accuracy and safety than humans driving. Men and women that drive a truck, buses, taxis, and Uber will perish. In Vancouver the subway train does not have drivers, it is controlled by a computer.
The number of jobs that could disappear is endless. With new technologies we may not even need Hollywood actors. What you see in the movie will be a replica of an actor. Doctors will be replaced by a computer:
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Watson is already capable of storing far more medical information than doctors, and unlike humans, its decisions are all evidence-based and free of cognitive biases and overconfidence. It's also capable of understanding natural language, generating hypotheses, evaluating the strength of those hypotheses, and learning — not just storing data, but finding meaning in it.
As IBM scientists continue to train Watson to apply its vast stores of knowledge to actual medical decision-making, it's likely just a matter of time before its diagnostic performance surpasses that of even the sharpest doctors.
If the blue collar republicans thought competing with an illegal mexican was tough they will go insane when they are replaced by a machine that does the job cheaper than an illegal. And the hard core capitalists will embrace this BIG time.
Ah, once again a leftist trots the myth that all these low wage workers are really hard working struggling family heads. You people trot out so much crap you really ought to be embarrassed.
Reality:
People at or below the federal minimum are:
◾Disproportionately young: 50.4% are ages 16 to 24; 24% are teenagers (ages 16 to 19).
◾Mostly (77%) white; nearly half are white women.
◾Largely part-time workers (64% of the total).
A majority is actually quite time, usually part timers. That the truth, that's why everything you say on the subject is agenda driven, ideological BS.
See bold: They are part timers so the company does not have to provide benefits.
Or we'll need 90% fewer people. Who says the population has to keep growing or remain constant?
Have you ever even had a job? You've clearly never managed people or run a business. Employers are NOT going to simply pay people more for doing less.
You are still living in the 19th and 20th century.
Do you think we will still be doing this in the 25th century? Do you realize than in the next 200 years everything will be automated? There will be very little work to do. You are thinking like a 20th century person and perhaps cannot see that far ahead. Nevertheless, the changes are upon us.
Let me paste what I posted above so you can be a better informed:
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You haven't seen anything yet.
In the near future cars and trucks will be self driven and with much more accuracy and safety than humans driving. Men and women that drive a truck, buses, taxis, and Uber will perish. In Vancouver the subway train does not have drivers, it is controlled by a computer.
The number of jobs that could disappear is endless. With new technologies we may not even need Hollywood actors. What you see in the movie will be a replica of an actor. Doctors will be replaced by a computer:
"Watson" is already capable of storing far more medical information than doctors, and unlike humans, its decisions are all evidence-based and free of cognitive biases and overconfidence. It's also capable of understanding natural language, generating hypotheses, evaluating the strength of those hypotheses, and learning — not just storing data, but finding meaning in it.
As IBM scientists continue to train Watson to apply its vast stores of knowledge to actual medical decision-making, it's likely just a matter of time before its diagnostic performance surpasses that of even the sharpest doctors.
Read more: IBM's Watson May Soon Be The Best Doctor In The World - Business Insider
If the blue collar republicans thought competing with an illegal mexican was tough they will go insane when they are replaced by a machine that does the job cheaper than an illegal. And the hard core capitalists will embrace this BIG time.
And jobs in robotics design, maintenance, and installation open up.
No, robots will maintain each other. You just don't get it or you are simply a contrarian.
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As robots start doing more and more of the work humans used to do, and doing it so much more efficiently than we ever did, what if the need for jobs disappears altogether? What if the robots end up producing more than enough of everything that everyone needs?
The redefinition of work itself is one of the most intriguing possibilities imagined in a recent Pew Research report on the future of robots and jobs. Certainly, the prospect of a robot-powered, post-scarcity future of mandatory mass leisure feels like a far-off scenario,
But yes, eventually they will in fact maintain themselves.
When will they develop themselves? When AI's come about. Whens that? Hard saying, most folks estimate 20 years for a true AI.
Once AI develops a conscience they will try to preserve themselves. At the onset they will do ALL the work for us and MAN will have a life of leisure. However, if they are conscious they could see us humans as inferior.
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