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The problem is that the deal in no way keeps Iran from developing nuclear weapons. By virtue of the fact that Iran is picking the Iranians that do the inspections to verify "compliance", there is no verification. What we have done, by eliminating both financial sanctions and restrictions on trade of specific items is to ensure that Iran now has far more money available to both fund weapons development and to continue enhance funding of international terrorism than any time in the last 35 or so years. It's like buying your mentally unstable, convicted felon neighbor that has promised to kill you...a shotgun.
Obama was desperate for some sort, any sort, of deal with Iran to lay claim to a legacy. The fact that it's in Iran's best interest and not ours is overlooked.
The problem is that the deal in no way keeps Iran from developing nuclear weapons. By virtue of the fact that Iran is picking the Iranians that do the inspections to verify "compliance", there is no verification. What we have done, by eliminating both financial sanctions and restrictions on trade of specific items is to ensure that Iran now has far more money available to both fund weapons development and to continue enhance funding of international terrorism than any time in the last 35 or so years. It's like buying your mentally unstable, convicted felon neighbor that has promised to kill you...a shotgun.
Obama was desperate for some sort, any sort, of deal with Iran to lay claim to a legacy. The fact that it's in Iran's best interest and not ours is overlooked.
What is the alternative war this is a good deal why does a lot of the UN support the deal to. You can not reason with anybody that has made up there minds about the Obama the day he was elected a total failure to these people being black is the worst thing ever. Obama did a lot of great thing like
Saved the auto industry
Better health care kept health insurances rates from skyrocketing
Got Osama Bush gave up
Ended the wars and brought most troops home
Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers
Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
What is the alternative war this is a good deal why does a lot of the UN support the deal to. You can not reason with anybody that has made up there minds about the Obama the day he was elected a total failure to these people being black is the worst thing ever. Obama did a lot of great thing like
Saved the auto industry
Better health care kept health insurances rates from skyrocketing
Got Osama Bush gave up
Ended the wars and brought most troops home
Established Credit Card Bill of Rights, preventing credit card companies from imposing arbitrary rate increases on customers
Launched recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, providing transparency and allowing the public to report fraud, waste, or abuse
Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
You are making assumptions about the poster without knowing their thoughts. I have always been an Obama supporter but do not agree with this deal. It is a BAD deal and even the politicians supporting him acknowledge that it comes with very significant risks. The fact that it allows for Iran to have its' own inspectors is ludicrous. I am no fan of war but I think most people underestimate the imminent danger Iran represents. If there was ever cause for bombing specific targets, bombing Iran's nuclear sites gets my vote. Better to have that confrontation now than when they exert more of a threat. This problem will not go away and this deal is simply refusing to face a real and present danger. This is one time that I support a more aggressive stance on a terrorist nation.
You are making assumptions about the poster without knowing their thoughts. I have always been an Obama supporter but do not agree with this deal. It is a BAD deal and even the politicians supporting him acknowledge that it comes with very significant risks. The fact that it allows for Iran to have its' own inspectors is ludicrous. I am no fan of war but I think most people underestimate the imminent danger Iran represents. If there was ever cause for bombing specific targets, bombing Iran's nuclear sites gets my vote. Better to have that confrontation now than when they exert more of a threat. This problem will not go away and this deal is simply refusing to face a real and present danger. This is one time that I support a more aggressive stance on a terrorist nation.
So you support another war where 5k of are troops would be killed
All they are doing is listening to Fox news pundits or their Conservative radio heroes and repeating what they hear. They have no clue what is actually in the deal.
And I guess YOU DO.
I's funny, NOT even Congress knows what the "secret" deals with U.N are.
The typical left chant, "We have to pass it to find out what is in it."
I vguess this doesn't bother you either:
Ten Congressional Democrats who support the Iran nuclear deal have taken money from pro-Iranian regime lobbyists with ties to the Iranian government.
FrontPage Magazine’s master sleuth Daniel Greenfield reports that the Iranian American Political Action Committee (IAPAC) has contributed to the following Pro-Iran deal Democrat “traitors”:
What is the alternative war this is a good deal why does a lot of the UN support the deal to. You can not reason with anybody that has made up there minds about the Obama the day he was elected a total failure to these people being black is the worst thing ever. Obama did a lot of great thing like
You are smarter than that, aren't you? THe alternative is to keep the same sanctions in place that we have had for decades, until Iran actually agrees to independent inspections by UN inspectors or the IAEC. The same thing we have done successfully so long, and btw the same technique we are using against Russia, a much bigger military threat than Iran. Not giving someone that has vowed to destroy you money is not the same as war.
BTW, your failure is obvious when you lead with the race card. Obama is a failure because of his actions, not because of his race. The only thing his race might do is make it much harder for another black person to be elected in the future, given his poor performance. When you see the vitriol thrown at smart, successful, accomplished black men like Ben Carson, I fear they are being harmed by the failure and corruption people associate with Obama and project onto other black people. Intelligent people of course realize that is not the case and judge them as individuals.
BTW, the agreement was brokered largely at the hands of John Kerry. He is also a bumbling fool, much like Joe Bieden. Guess what? They are white. Stupid isn't about race.
Quote:
One of the many unanswered questions about P5+1 agreement with Iran is why so many Congressional Democrats are rallying behind the President on this issue when recent polls show the majority of Americans want Congress to reject the deal.
Part of the reason is obvious: they are supporting a president from their own party, but a not-so-obvious reason may be that Iranian lobbyists are making big campaign donations to Democrats and are funding pro-deal propaganda.
Writing in Front Page Magazine, Daniel Greenfield pointed out that many of the Democratic legislators who announced their support for the deal are getting money from the Iran lobby, specifically the Iranian American Political Action Committee (IAPAC) :
IPAC maxed out its contributions to Senator Ed Markey (D-MA), and Al Franken received the same $5,000 during the 2014 election cycle.
The word for that, taking money in return for actions that harm your country, is TREASON.
Last edited by Toyman at Jewel Lake; 09-03-2015 at 06:55 AM..
Tighten the current sanctions, they have seemed to work the last ohhhhh...how many years?
And if 15 years is tomorrow or the next day if we don't put this plan in action, that means they already have 99% to make a bomb, right?
Do you dems really think they are just going to give that up? LOL....
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