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Old 09-06-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Bush and Cheney agreed to pull out the troops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E...rces_Agreement

What happened (even though it never fully happened) was agreed upon by Bush and Cheney. Obama has screwed up many things but you can't blame him for living up to the Bush/Cheney agreement.
Most certainly you can blame Obama since he was at the helm at the time. There was nothing forcing him to uphold the stupid agreement for precipitous withdrawal that W Bush made.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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Most certainly you can blame Obama since he was at the helm at the time. There was nothing forcing him to uphold the stupid agreement for precipitous withdrawal that W Bush made.
Bush/stupid. Fair enough.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Conservatives are clueless about foreign policy, so it's an easy call to criticize Cheney. The problem is that Paul doesn't realize that he's no better.

Last edited by LexusNexus; 09-06-2015 at 05:50 PM..
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: CO
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The problem is not Cheney's policies. The problem is that those policies were turned over to an inept socialist.
Pretzel with that logic?
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The truth was spoken by the poster you responded to.


Because it was decided, makes it so? Because we never let emotions get the best of us? Like when prisoners are shot or taken on a death march and those who make it live in conditions much worse than just about anyone on earth? Or when villages are taken, no raping or pillaging happens?

What should be and what reality shows us to actually happen, are two different things.
The truth was spoken? Good one. Thanks for giving everyone a good laugh!

Yes, because it was decided it makes it so. The US is party to the convention and we agree to conduct our operations within its framework. When individual service men/women and units run afoul they are prosecuted.
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The truth was spoken? Good one. Thanks for giving everyone a good laugh!
The only laugh is out of pity for YOU, that YOU don't get it.

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Yes, because it was decided it makes it so. The US is party to the convention and we agree to conduct our operations within its framework. When individual service men/women and units run afoul they are prosecuted.
It still happens and no, not all are prosecuted. Get it now?
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Most certainly you can blame Obama since he was at the helm at the time. There was nothing forcing him to uphold the stupid agreement for precipitous withdrawal that W Bush made.
We can blame Obama for lying about bringing the troops home too. Can you believe all his supporters who don't care that Obama is a bald faced liar?

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Old 09-07-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Most certainly you can blame Obama since he was at the helm at the time. There was nothing forcing him to uphold the stupid agreement for precipitous withdrawal that W Bush made.
Aside from the fact that most Americans and Iraqis wanted us out....
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Old 09-07-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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We can blame Obama for lying about bringing the troops home too. Can you believe all his supporters who don't care that Obama is a bald faced liar?

I can't believe how stupid people are..... Not able to differentiate campaign promises from things that are possible to do. Hopefully you have those same expectations for all candidates, not just the colored ones with foreign sounding names.
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Old 09-07-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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I can't believe how stupid people are..... Not able to differentiate campaign promises from things that are possible to do. Hopefully you have those same expectations for all candidates, not just the colored ones with foreign sounding names.
Nothing he promised as far as the wars go was impossible to do.

I hope you defend them all, not just the colored ones with foriegn sounding names for reneging on their promises.
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