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Old 09-28-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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The problem is we allow people to have guns in homes that shouldn't like a family with a mentally unstable person like say Adam Lanza.
we still have a thing called due process that we have to deal with, and since mr lanza was never adjudicated as being mentally incompetent, then what law would prevent him from having a firearm, let alone his family? and before you protest, i agree he never should have been able to get a hold of the firearms. but until due process has been satisfied, there is no law that would prevent his family from owning firearms.

 
Old 09-28-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The problem is we allow people to have guns in homes that shouldn't like a family with a mentally unstable person like say Adam Lanza.
An even bigger problem is that we allow idiots to procreate.
 
Old 09-28-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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Who do you honestly think is going to be doing this mass confiscation of guns from citizens? Are you going to personally go door to door demanding that folks turn over their guns?
What's it to you? You keep asking how, when I've already said that's a discussion for a different topic.


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Relax. Take a deep breath. You aren't going to do squat! Neither are the rest of your anti-gun friends!
Really? Is that why the NRA put so many Republicans in their pockets and spend a fortune on lobbying??
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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What's it to you? You keep asking how, when I've already said that's a discussion for a different topic.
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actually since you broached the subject of gun confiscation, YOU need to tell how it would be done, as YOU made it part of this subject. so pray tell how would you go about confiscating law abiding citizens firearms?
 
Old 09-29-2015, 03:34 AM
 
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actually since you broached the subject of gun confiscation, YOU need to tell how it would be done, as YOU made it part of this subject. so pray tell how would you go about confiscating law abiding citizens firearms?
I have never broached the subject of gun confiscation. I did mentioned a ban, but that is not confiscation.
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:44 AM
 
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Actually, that's not true. Cops are no match for the military which would quite likely join the citizens to overthrow a tyrannical government. Military personnel do not swear to protect the government and I doubt if LE does either.

Read history. It does happen.
If you've got the military on your side, why do you even need guns??


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No, we don't agree. again, read history.
If you don't want a tyrannical government, just vote Democrats. Much easier.

Btw, where was the armed citizens' uprising against George W. Bush?? It looks to me this uprising thing is all talk.
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:54 AM
 
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Sure. And while we're at it, since we're "getting rid" of Amendments, let's do away with the 4th, and the 5th, your right to privacy, and right to remain silent, as well as the 1st and your right to freedom of speech. Unless of course you believe that those rights will be protected too?

Are you trying to say that gun owners are the difference between having a Constitution and total chaos?
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Except that is not true, guns are used over a million time a year for self defense. Thankfully that can usually be done without shooting anyone.
My point was a thread telling this story as a way of proving that guns can save you from the bad guys was totally unnecessary and proves nothing. We all get it, the issue is at what cost. Those innocent children at Sandy Hook , to cite just one example, paid the price so Adam Lanza's mother could fee safe.

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Old 09-29-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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I bet this guy feels really good about being "protected" by someone packing heat: Man carjacked, witness opens fire at gas station in NE Houston | News - Home
 
Old 09-29-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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What's it to you? You keep asking how, when I've already said that's a discussion for a different topic.




Really? Is that why the NRA put so many Republicans in their pockets and spend a fortune on lobbying??
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Well, quite frankly, when you seek to compromise rights guaranteed by the US Constitution then it means a lot to me.


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actually since you broached the subject of gun confiscation, YOU need to tell how it would be done, as YOU made it part of this subject. so pray tell how would you go about confiscating law abiding citizens firearms?
He won't be doing anything. If anything he'll ask those with guns to go after citizens with guns!

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I have never broached the subject of gun confiscation. I did mentioned a ban, but that is not confiscation.
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And what is your silly little "ban" going to lead to? Banning something really works doesn't it? It worked well with alcohol, and it's certainly doing a bang up job with marijuana! Hello, black market!

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If you've got the military on your side, why do you even need guns??




If you don't want a tyrannical government, just vote Democrats. Much easier.

Btw, where was the armed citizens' uprising against George W. Bush?? It looks to me this uprising thing is all talk.
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Why do I need a gun? Well, it is my Constitutional right to do so! What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Furthermore, the Constitution does not specify guns to be used only by the military. And, it really is none of your business. Don't want a gun, don't get one. That is your choice! Just do NOT take away my choice, just because you feel "icky" about them! MMMKAY!!!

As for voting Democrat, LOL! I have no love for Republicans due to their hypocrisy of claiming to be for smaller government, but I damn sure am not going to vote for Democrats who make no bones about expanding the federal government, and instituting nanny state BS, and handouts! No thanks! I'll continue to vote for candidates that adhere to and uphold the Constitution, and quite frankly politicians from both parties haven't been doing a good job of that! Your Bush comment is not even worthy of a respone.

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Are you trying to say that gun owners are the difference between having a Constitution and total chaos?
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Do you honestly think that a government who would make such a big power grab like repealing the 2nd and proceeds to ban and possibly confiscate all guns from American citizens is going to let you keep your other rights? Why would they? What would give them the incentive to do so? An unarmed society is a subjegated society! The founders knew this! Learn from history, and what is currently going on in the world. I know it doesn't fit with your agenda, but that is the way it is! Furthermore, keep an eye on the situation in Europe with their "refugee" problem! Those who are over there are already causing problems, and just wait! It's going to get a lot worse! I'll bet those Europeans are going to wish that they had better means to protect themselves from a**backwards ideology that is trying to be forced upon them!
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