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Of course you don't see anything you don't want to.
You give admittedly far-leftist sources like MediaMatters and Crooks and Liars... to whine about the other side. What a surprise.
Of course you don't see anything you don't want to.
You give admittedly far-leftist sources like MediaMatters and Crooks and Liars... to whine about the other side. What a surprise.
Let me help you get back on track here. You said this:
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Originally Posted by sxrckr
And leftists and Dems, including in here, as well as a lot of the media are cherry-picking and even sometimes distorting what he says. Using it to throw against those they disagree with politically. It's disingenuous.
I told you that I had not seen any evidence of what you had claimed, but that I had seen the right attacking the Pope's message and I offered you a few examples. Whether or not you like the sources is irrelevant, they are links to actual quotes not op eds. The issue is that you have yet to prove your claim that leftists and dems are cherry picking or distorting the pope's message, so at this point I have to assume that you either can't, or you choose not to do so.
The Pope can save it for somewhere else. We have "separation of church and state" and I thought the Dems were the ones insisting that we keep it that way. There is constant criticism of the GOP taking a stand on religious issues and now the Pope wants to show up and shake his finger at us? Ah, he has enough issues within his own realm, those working below him to put his nose into.
The pope did not invite himself to speak to Congress.
I don't know how the pope made the decision to visit America - but I am under the impression that John Boehner has been trying to arrange a papal visit for years.
Disagree. Completely. The Pope made it clear that he did not want to be viewed as a leftist, even as his policies align with leftist Democrats in America. It is absolutely not a coincidence that he disavowed liberalism prior to his arrival in the US. He did so because he knows that politicizing his moral message is the best way to be zeroed in on by Democrats' opponents within and outside the party.
You seem to have a very intimate relationship with the interior workings of the papal brain. Is there something you haven't been telling us?
Of course you don't see anything you don't want to.
You give admittedly far-leftist sources like MediaMatters and Crooks and Liars... to whine about the other side. What a surprise.
As do you. You've made that very clear in your posts. Why do you criticize others when you suffer from the very same shortcomings?
Let me help you get back on track here. You said this:
I told you that I had not seen any evidence of what you had claimed, but that I had seen the right attacking the Pope's message and I offered you a few examples. Whether or not you like the sources is irrelevant, they are links to actual quotes not op eds. The issue is that you have yet to prove your claim that leftists and dems are cherry picking or distorting the pope's message, so at this point I have to assume that you either can't, or you choose not to do so.
It was in my previous posts you apparently didn't notice. Help yourself.
Don't like it? Take it up with the Catholic source.
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Originally Posted by ahzzie
As do you. You've made that very clear in your posts. Why do you criticize others when you suffer from the very same shortcomings?
Another confused person who missed how I've mentioned the fault of both sides.
The pope did not invite himself to speak to Congress.
I don't know how the pope made the decision to visit America - but I am under the impression that John Boehner has been trying to arrange a papal visit for years.
Pope Francis long planned to visit the USA for the conference on families happening in Philly, that was the entire point of his American visit from the start. It was Obama and others who felt "so long as the pontiff was going to be in the States anyway.....". Thus a slew of invitations were sent to Rome. This number grew as the Pope's "rock star" status grew including being on the cover of Time magazine. Everyone wants a piece of that action and a chance to cloak themselves in a bit of the magic.
To my mind the Obamas aren't exactly the most religious family to occupy the WH (do they even go to church?) so for BO to fall all over himself about Pope Francis seems rather rich. But again as one stated previously it is about the current occupant of the office rather than religion as a whole.
The pope did not invite himself to speak to Congress.
I don't know how the pope made the decision to visit America - but I am under the impression that John Boehner has been trying to arrange a papal visit for years.
Yes, that was my first thought, too, when I heard the news that Boehner had suddenly decided to resign. It seems a bit too coincidental that it would occur mere hours after his meeting with the Pope. He was obviously distressed throughout the Pope's visit. We've seen Boehner cry before, but nothing like this. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pope said something to him that made him come to this decision.
Yes, that was my first thought, too, when I heard the news that Boehner had suddenly decided to resign. It seems a bit too coincidental that it would occur mere hours after his meeting with the Pope. He was obviously distressed throughout the Pope's visit. We've seen Boehner cry before, but nothing like this. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pope said something to him that made him come to this decision.
I wonder that myself.
Boehner would have resigned last year, but changed his mind when Cantor lost - seems he felt that he owed it to Congressional Rs to help hold things together. He couldn't have been looking forward to being reviled by those same congressional Rs for his efforts to prevent another shut-down.
Maybe the pope told him it was OK, he could just stop, he owes nothing to them anymore? Or maybe his tears had nothing to do with partisan politics. Maybe this devout catholic was just overwhelmed by meeting a pope face-to-face. I don't really understand it myself, but I can't ignore the fact that millions of people world-wide feel the same way about the pope.
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