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Old 10-13-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Just an interesting chart.
Your chart, as posted, is meaningless. What does the Y axis represent? What were the weapons used for "homicides?"
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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the problem, as i see it, is how to do this without violating the rights of the people. and not just those that are mentally ill either, but those without a mental illness. and i wont apologize for supporting the rights of law abiding citizens.

Simply screen those who wish to own guns. Also, requiring a gun safety class wouldn't hurt.

Rochester, Minn., man shoots granddaughter, mistaken for intruder

STANLEY WILKINSON, ROCHESTER PASTOR, FACES FELONY FOR ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTING GRANDDAUGHTER
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: MS
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A class to learn 4 simple rules? That's overkill. He broke rule 4 and is paying the price.

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Old 10-13-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Haven't you heard that NO ONE is suggesting banning guns?
This is hilarious....

This post follows a post that suggests exactly that.

Read post #385 then read post #386
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Old 10-13-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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new law without a supreme court change
---(i.e.a new supreme court could reverse earlier courts, and find that the 2nd amendment only applies to a militia, and thus allow a federal law banning weapons).


My "legal" one today would be

Federal Firearm insurance for both ammo and weapons

All weapons must be registered and insured for the cost of the weapon.

You must gain insurance on your own through a accredited party.

Accredited parties must allow claim data history data on parties.

Failure to gain insurance (i.e. too risky) or failure to keep insurance will require persons to either sale the weapon within 30 days OR turn weapon in to avoid penalties

Persons who poses a firearm or ammo without insurance mandated 5 thousand dollar fine or 3 years first offense; 6 years second offense; and one additional year per offense after (3rd offense is 6+1 year)

All weapon and ammo sales must be registered and tracked using insurance registration database. Selling a weapon without checking/verification of register follows same fine structure as weapon possession

Insurance companies are required to check criminal history, mental health history of all would be insurance applicants.

Insurance companies would be required to insure against the user executing any killing or spree killing with payouts per individual in the course of death or injury or accident.

Ammo is registered/tracked - unique markers added to ammo randomly and assigned to each "box" of ammo. Box of ammo is also traced.

Insurance company plans could set limit on their plans for type of use; number of weapons
i.e. Hunter plan 3 rifles, 1 pistol; XYZ ammo - $50 per month

Persons denied insurance would not legally be able to purchase, receive, or hold weapon and would face fines as noted above.


Insurance companies could "blacklist" people for egregious failure of safety. For example, using a weapon in non-self defense resulting in injury; leaving a weapon where a child kills; supply a weapon to someone without insurance
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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A 2007 study is no longer relevant since the number of mass shootings has skyrocketed since then.

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how many of those mass shooting have taken place in places where privately owned firearms are not allowed?

almost all of them would be the correct answer.
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Your link doesn't work. Tell the NRA to fix it.


it worked fine for me, you just have to use the arrow keys to go to the next page rather than use your scroll button to page down.
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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Let's see how Miss Meadows would handle situations like these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhsuYg6W2GA
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