Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Don't want a baby? be responsible, keep your pants on.
Last time I saw a comment like this (in another thread), I was tempted to respond to it but didn't. Thanks for making the same stupid comment someone else did so that I would actually go through with responding. I hope you encounter and befriend someone who was raped and impregnated, because hopefully after hearing that perspective, you'll making such blanket statements, which are offensive even to those of us who have not been in such a situation.
In response to the OP...I just think this is one of the most complex political issues society is dealing with. I think any person on either side of the debate would be in denial if he or she tried to paint it as something simple.
Last time I saw a comment like this (in another thread), I was tempted to respond to it but didn't. Thanks for making the same stupid comment someone else did so that I would actually go through with responding. I hope you encounter and befriend someone who was raped and impregnated, because hopefully after hearing that perspective, you'll making such blanket statements, which are offensive even to those of us who have not been in such a situation.
In response to the OP...I just think this is one of the most complex political issues society is dealing with. I think any person on either side of the debate would be in denial if he or she tried to paint it as something simple.
Are you suggesting that rape accounts for a significant portion of abortions?
Don't want a baby? be responsible, keep your pants on.
Unfortunately, science has advanced beyond this point. You can now get pregnant without having sex: Test-tube babies, cloning, artificial insemination, etc. What about surrogate mothers who are having a baby for someone else?
What about that woman who really wanted a baby so she did something fertility related (this is an old story so I can't really remember all of the details) and ended up pregnant with something like 8 babies? The doctors told her she needed to abort at least one of them or they would end up deformed and she refused to? (There wasn't enough room in her womb for all those kids!) I can't remember, but I think she ended up losing all of them.
Anyway, science is beyond the "keep your pants on" argument.
Stealing, murder, physical violence, etc. etc. everyone knows they are wrong and thats why we have a court system where we look at mitigating factors as well as burden of evidence.
Stealing, murder, physical violence, etc. etc. everyone knows they are wrong and thats why we have a court system where we look at mitigating factors as well as burden of evidence.
Those aren't based upon opinion?
If a satellite company is broadcasting a signal where the waves reach my antenna, yet I have not paid for their service, I can be charged with theft of service. My opinion differs than the lawmakers on that one.
Hate crimes aren't a matter of opinion?
Killing someone in self defense isn't the exertion of an opinion?
I agree that we have court systems to handle with interpretation and to allow juries to assit with this as well... but that only further proves my point. Laws are created upon opinion... no matter how popular they may be, they're still opinions.
Unfortunately, science has advanced beyond this point. You can now get pregnant without having sex: Test-tube babies, cloning, artificial insemination, etc. What about surrogate mothers who are having a baby for someone else?
What about that woman who really wanted a baby so she did something fertility related (this is an old story so I can't really remember all of the details) and ended up pregnant with something like 8 babies? The doctors told her she needed to abort at least one of them or they would end up deformed and she refused to? (There wasn't enough room in her womb for all those kids!) I can't remember, but I think she ended up losing all of them.
Anyway, science is beyond the "keep your pants on" argument.
No, its not at all. If you don't want a baby, or babies, then keep your pants on, and your vagina away from test tubes, etc. as well. Its not that difficult.
I don't believe in abortion but I don't feel I have a right to tell anyone else what to do.
ALL laws ultimately represent "someone" (society) telling "someone" (an individual, usually) what to do, or what NOT to do. Not a very good point, Texanborn...If you don't 'believe in it', you should tell folks not to 'do' it...same as kiddie porn, cocaine sales, or real estate fraud. If it's OK, then fine--if it's NOT OK, then it's worthy of having a law made prohibiting it.
Last time I saw a comment like this (in another thread), I was tempted to respond to it but didn't. Thanks for making the same stupid comment someone else did so that I would actually go through with responding. I hope you encounter and befriend someone who was raped and impregnated, because hopefully after hearing that perspective, you'll making such blanket statements, which are offensive even to those of us who have not been in such a situation.
In response to the OP...I just think this is one of the most complex political issues society is dealing with. I think any person on either side of the debate would be in denial if he or she tried to paint it as something simple.
It's very simple. Keep your pants on and you have nothing to worry about. Way less than 1% of all pregnancies are from a rape or something similar. And either way, all laws have exceptions.
All you have to do is be responsible. It's too bad most humans are too stupid to grasp that.
I think you made some valid points. Just throwing slogans and cliches at each other doesn't usually change any minds.
Neither does reason and logic, so what difference does it make?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
