Bernie Sanders wants assault weapons ban but knives used more to kill (deaths, violent crime)

[hawk55732]

Originally Posted by WayneCounty

Assault weapons are only used for killing. Knives are also used for practical reasons (hunting, cutting meat and rope, carving wood, etc).

And what makes an assault weapon.

I can tell you right now that the majority of gun owners do not own one.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

And what makes an assault weapon.

I can tell you right now that the majority of gun owners do not own one.

This <bold> is the question that needs to be coherently answered and not with a "it looks scary" definition like has been used in almost every other demand for such a ban.

I challenge ALL those who agree with Bernie to put your heads together and come to a consensus on this (if you can).

[WayneCounty]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

And what makes an assault weapon.

I can tell you right now that the majority of gun owners do not own one.

Whatever was considered an assault weapon during the 1994-2004 ban. From Wikipedia,

Under the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 the definition of "semiautomatic assault weapon" included specific semi-automatic firearm models by name, and other semi-automatic firearms that possessed two or more from a set certain features:

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
- Folding or telescoping stock
- Pistol grip
- Bayonet mount
- Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
- Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
- Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
- Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
- Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
- Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
- A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
- Folding or telescoping stock
- Pistol grip
- Detachable magazine.

The ban defined the following semi-automatic firearms, as well as any copies or duplicates of them in any caliber, as assault weapons:

- Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (AKs) (all models)
- Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil
- Beretta AR-70 (SC-70)
- Colt AR-15
- Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN-LAR, FNC
- SWD (MAC type) M-10, M-11, M11/9, M12
- Steyr AUG
- INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22
- Revolving cylinder shotguns such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12

[hawk55732]

Originally Posted by WayneCounty

Whatever was considered an assault weapon during the 1994-2004 ban. From Wikipedia,

By that definition a 22 rifle could be an assault rifle while an ar15 might not be.

Heck, a pellet gun could be defined as an assault rifle.

[WayneCounty]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

By that definition a 22 rifle could be an assault rifle while an ar15 might not be.

Heck, a pellet gun could be defined as an assault rifle.

But they weren't considered assault weapons in 1994 and they won't be in the future.

[hawk55732]

Originally Posted by WayneCounty

But they weren't considered assault weapons in 1994 and they won't be in the future.

By the definition just posted, they would be. What was posted says nothing about caliber. Only cosmetics.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by WayneCounty

Whatever was considered an assault weapon during the 1994-2004 ban. From Wikipedia,

That's someones else definition....not what it actually is....that's the problem...

Here is a great site to review, if you really want to learn facts...it takes a few minutes to go through the slides....but only if you want to learn....

The Truth About Assault Weapons

[jimj]

Originally Posted by hawk55732

By the definition just posted, they would be. What was posted says nothing about caliber. Only cosmetics.

And that is why I asked for a "coherent" description and one NOT based on "it looks scary".

[WayneCounty]

Originally Posted by jimj

And that is why I asked for a "coherent" description and one NOT based on "it looks scary".

I gave a coherent description. Gun nuts just don't understand facts.

[Dd714]

Originally Posted by Year2525

Another goofball gun controller.

Knives are used more often to kill people than so called assault weapons. You'd think somone with intelligence would see that and not prove how uninformed they are. Sanders can't help himself.

Proof:https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...#disablemobile

Numbers don't lie so why do gun control people?

1.) Assualt rifles, that is - select fire automatic weapons, are virtually never used in crime. I think only one murder has occurred with an assault rifle in the US since the times of Bonnie and Clyde (and that murder was by a police officer). Reason they are never used is that they are expensive, hard to obtain, and very difficult to fire in a controlled manner without training.

2.) The more vague term "assault weapon" can basically be any long rifle. I don't think anyone has come up with a consistent definition of one except "one that is black and looks scary". The semi-auto AR15 variants seem to be the weapon-of-choice by these mass murdering nuts but those murders, while terrible and highly publicized, are statistically insignificant. Long rifles by nature are bulky and difficult to conceal, thus not often used in day-to-day crimes.

3.) Hand guns I think are the main concern in drug and crime ridden areas - small, portable, concealable, and deadly. Once again, hand gun crime is statistically prevalent in certain urban areas.

With that in mind, we are best focused on the root cause - the shooters (emotionally troubles young adults for #2, and disadvanteged youths and young adults in certain drug-plagued urban areas for #3) not the tool.