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You can be an atheist and still a Jew so long as your mother was Jewish. The end.
You just contradicted yourself.
If you're atheist you don't subscribe to any of the nonsense of the religion. Including using religious law and definition to dictate who is and who is not Jewish.
I know plenty of people who are atheist "of Jewish heritage"... or agnostic "of Jewish background"... but I don't think you can logically base your identity on a religious law and then claim to be atheist. Either you're atheist, or not. "Culturally Jewish" is a better way to understand it.
Same way as I am "Culturally Christian" - celebrating the holidays and traditions with family, even if I don't actually subscribe to the "reason for the season."
Go tell that to the family of the guy who was killed.
I dare you.
Would that be the same family that spoke out and don't want extremist groups using his death to spread their filth and hate? Source here - READ IT
”We would not wish any other families to go through this harrowing experience and appeal to everyone to keep calm and show their respect in a peaceful manner.“
So yeh, I'm showing respect to their son by using the words KEEP CALM
Being a Jew is not something that you are merely by virtue of your parents or your ancestry.
Neither is being a Christian or a Muslim.
That's not how Jews see ourselves, but I suppose you'd have to take it up with any Rabbi of any denomination in the world. Or the Israeli government's definition of who is Jewish for the right of return (hint: does not need to be practicing).
I have, grew up there and I agree with all of it. Where do you live?
I'm a Brit and grew up with the NF and their race war crap and now their bastard offspring the EDL are trying the same, fueled by the Daily Fail and their hype - though that seems to have stopped now they have the latest Kardashian scandal to cover
Would that be the same family that spoke out and don't want extremist groups using his death to spread their filth and hate? Source here - READ IT
”We would not wish any other families to go through this harrowing experience and appeal to everyone to keep calm and show their respect in a peaceful manner.“
So yeh, I'm showing respect to their son by using the words KEEP CALM
You're not showing respect by minimizing the significance of his death.
If you're atheist you don't subscribe to any of the nonsense of the religion. Including using religious law and definition to dictate who is and who is not Jewish.
I know plenty of people who are atheist "of Jewish heritage"... or agnostic "of Jewish background"... but I don't think you can logically base your identity on a religious law and then claim to be atheist. Either you're atheist, or not. "Culturally Jewish" is a better way to understand it.
Same way as I am "Culturally Christian" - celebrating the holidays and traditions with family, even if I don't actually subscribe to the "reason for the season."
Christianity is not Judaism. You cannot compare the two. If your mother is Jewish, you are Jewish. Full stop. The end. That's it. You don't have to ever set foot in a synagogue for that to be true. Christianity has no such equivalent so that worldview has no place in this conversation. You are talking about Judaism and what it means to be Jewish from a Christian lens.
Judaism is a tribal religion. My children will be Jewish even if I never breathe a word to them about Judaism simply by the nature of birthright. That is also backed up by religious law.
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You can make up your religion as you please, but people who do that are NOT Christians, Jews or Muslims.
Each religion has certain basic tenets that you either believe in and live your life by or not.
According to what you say, you do not, so all you have is "(your name)'s religion."
If you want to muddy the waters, go for it.
But don't expect me to say that the result isn't muddy water.
Here's a lot of muddy water for you.
Did you know (from the web site of the link I'm about to give) there are over 1,000 [ad lib] different Christian beliefs and every one of them believe they are the only ones going to Heaven?
"We accept as Christian any individual or group who devoutly, sincerely, thoughtfully, seriously, and prayerfully regards themselves to be Christian. That is, they honestly believe that they follow Yeshua of Nazareth's (a.k.a. Jesus Christ's) teachings as they interpret them to be."
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btw: I don't define me, other people do. Just as you have done. Not everyone fits into the 'box' and it is a pity that more people can not realize and understand, that people are human beings, long before they are of God and or of Country. Humanity might stand a chance and possibly there would be less killing, and condemnation if they did.
To condemn all Muslims because of a civil war, is a really bad idea. Thankfully there are the good people of Germany, that know this and have acted accordingly.
That's not how Jews see ourselves, but I suppose you'd have to take it up with any Rabbi of any denomination in the world. Or the Israeli government's definition of who is Jewish for the right of return (hint: does not need to be practicing).
I don't need to do any of that.
All I need to know is that Judaism is a religion.
You cannot be a Jew and be non-religious.
It is a contradiction in terms.
You can call yourself whatever you want. That doesn't mean you are that thing.
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