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Old 10-25-2015, 05:45 AM
 
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Many ask why we don't see many government whistle blowers for illegal covert operations like geoengineering and weather modification programs ... here is why

Government Implements Illegal “Gag Order” On National Weather Service And NOAA Employees

 
Old 10-25-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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geoengineeringwatch.org is not a credible source.

I Googled "geoengineering watch hoax" and got lots of hits.

According to http://www.fakenewswatch.com/, geoengineeringwatch.org is a Clickbait Website.

"Clickbait websites are sites that take bits of true stories but insinuate and make up other details to sew fear. Most of these are conspiratorial in nature are very unreliable."
 
Old 10-25-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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geoengineeringwatch.org is not a credible source.
Actually it's a hell of a lot more credible than state-run mainstream media propaganda.

But regardless ... did the government impose a gag order on the employees or not?

This site claims they did ...
WEATHER SERVICE EMPLOYEES TETHERED BY ILLEGAL GAG ORDERS

And this one ...

National Weather Service Leadership Clashing with its Employees about Non-Disclosure

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Old 10-25-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Even if such orders existed, they would not be illegal. First amendment protections do not apply to government employees in work capacities.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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Even if such orders existed, they would not be illegal. First amendment protections do not apply to government employees in work capacities.
From the PEER statement: "A key provision of the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012 curbed the use of blanket nondisclosure policies or agreements, otherwise known as “gag orders,” implemented by federal agencies. The act lays out specific exceptions which must be included as a part of any such confidentiality directive."

So this action is illegal per the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012.

But you are missing the point. Why would the government impose a gag order on government employees who work in government weather monitoring and reporting agencies? Why can't the public know what's really going on at the National Weather Service. This is weather reporting not CIA operations.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 08:48 AM
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Apparently Bush did similar in 05
Bush gag orders National Weather Service
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NWS must obtain approval before they talk to the media
if OP story is correct it probably has more to do with the new climate/carbon tax coming before masterr O leaves office
 
Old 10-25-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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Apparently Bush did similar in 05
Bush gag orders National Weather Service
if OP story is correct it probably has more to do with the new climate/carbon tax coming before masterr O leaves office
The Bush administration probably did imposed the gag order also. Geoengineering (weather engineering) is not a democrat only or republican only agenda. The weather modification programs have been funded by both sides of the aisle for many decades and under many administrations.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 09:15 AM
 
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Even if such orders existed, they would not be illegal. First amendment protections do not apply to government employees in work capacities.
Pickering vs Board of Ed ruled that a government employee couldn't be fired for exercising their free speech rights unless they were false in nature or made them unable to do their jobs.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 09:47 AM
 
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Pickering vs Board of Ed ruled that a government employee couldn't be fired for exercising their free speech rights unless they were false in nature or made them unable to do their jobs.
Garcetti v. Ceballos is a later decision. Pickering v. Board of Education ruled that the First Amendment protected public employees from adverse employment actions when they are “speaking as a citizen” on a matter of public concern. In Garcetti, the Court held that, when public employees make statements “pursuant to their official duties,” such speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
 
Old 10-25-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Garcetti v. Ceballos is a later decision. Pickering v. Board of Education ruled that the First Amendment protected public employees from adverse employment actions when they are “speaking as a citizen” on a matter of public concern. In Garcetti, the Court held that, when public employees make statements “pursuant to their official duties,” such speech is not protected by the First Amendment.

So, do you think a gag order on the employees of the National Weather Service And NOAA is a good thing?
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