It begins: Exxon considered for 'climate crimes' (middle east, military, cost)

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

I want to know when Al Gore will be tried for "climate change lies"? His blatant hypocrisy and conflict of interest in promoting climate change hysteria while profiting off a bogus "carbon trading" company was pretty sad and pathetic. Fraud at the very least.

[Makhno75]

Fraud is a crime in every jurisdiction I know of--not just Orwell's Oceania.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by getitgotitgood

Really? If science is for sale what makes you think it doesn't happen on the AGW side as well?
Billions of dollars in research funding every year all predicated on their being a crisis. If there is no crisis, there is no funding and no interest.

I really have to laugh at how the left paints this! As if it's some battle between the selfless scientists and their liberal cheerleaders tirelessly fighting to save the planet versus the evil greedy conservatives and the big bad oil companies.

Give me a break!

If you think the AGW scientists and the lefty politicians can't be influenced by politics, funding and power, you are either ridiculously naive or hopelessly partisan.

If you are going to make a follow the money claim then it doesn't help when there's trillions of dollars behind companies like Exxon, BP, etc.

[getitgotitgood]

Originally Posted by dv1033

If you are going to make a follow the money claim then it doesn't help when there's trillions of usd behind companies like Exxon, BP, etc.

I never said there wasn't. I said it happens on both sides.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by getitgotitgood

I never said there wasn't. I said it happens on both sides.

Of course, scientists are human beings. However, there's a lot more money on the industries that prefer the status quo of pollution.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by dv1033

Of course, scientists are human beings. However, there's a lot more money on the industries that prefer the status quo of pollution.

To add, we would be spending billions to research our climate and planet regardless.

[BigHouse9]

Originally Posted by dv1033

Lol. Follow the money? Like Exxon? How about chevron? BP? Koch industries? Do you realize how much money is behind manufacturers, logistics, and energy production?

Are they the ones promoting climate change?

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

Are they the ones promoting climate change?

Climate change cannot be "promoted" any more than evolution can.

[kdog]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

Climate change cannot be "promoted" any more than evolution can.

Evolution can be easily promoted. Just get Republicans to stop breeding.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by BigHouse9

Are they the ones promoting climate change?

Nope, they're the ones promoting the status quo (aka subsidizing pollution).