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Old 11-12-2015, 12:41 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Don't countries follow the Quran? All we have to go by are countries like Saudi Arabia and Jordan and people think these countries are moderate......not sure how a country can be moderate and carry out daily beheading and stoning of women in town square.
But the actual facts show that America is worse than those Muslim countries.


America has a murder rate of (5) per 100,000 citizens.

Saudi Arabia has a murder rate of (1) per 100,000 citizens.
Jordan has a murder rate of (2) per 100,000 citizens.

Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table



America has a rape rate of (27.3) per 100,000 citizens.

Jordan has a rape rate of (2) per 100,000 citizens.
United Arab Emirates (near Saudi Arabia) has a rape rate of (1.5) per 100,000 citizens.

Saudi Arabia (no info available)
Countries Compared by Crime > Rape rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com



Then America does things like put a huge percentage of the population in prison (sometimes for no other reason than being poor and black.)

America has (698) per 100,000 citizens in prison.

Saudi Arabia has (161) per 100,000 citizens in prison.
Jordan has (150) per 100,000 citizens in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate


When the actual homicide, rape, and incarceration figures are looked at, Saudi Arabia and Jordan appear to be much more civilized than America.




But still your very correct about what you said. Saudi Arabia executes a person every 2 days.
Saudi Arabia executes 'a person every two days' as rate of beheadings soars under King Salman | Middle East | News | The Independent

Personally I get upset with radical Muslims for doing things like mistreating women. And I would love to stop Muslims from doing those things (but I just don't see how insulting Islam is going to stop it.)

Chad.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"When in reality, they're all pretty much the same"

The same? Must be a just random chance the the least free countries in the world are Muslim, the least Gay friendly countries are Muslim, and the most Terrorist in the world are guess what? Muslims. You may be able to convince your fellow Leftist and Apologist that there is equivalency between all the worlds religions but for those who can actually read the data, it says it is an order of magnitude worse.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World

The 20 most and least gay-friendly countries in the world | GlobalPost

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rrorist_groups

I'm not referring to their screwed political/social/cultural crap.

The religions are pretty much the same.

Check it out sometime. Then you'll see.

Carry on.


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Old 11-12-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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But the actual facts show that America is worse than those Muslim countries.


America has a murder rate of (5) per 100,000 citizens.

Saudi Arabia has a murder rate of (1) per 100,000 citizens.
Jordan has a murder rate of (2) per 100,000 citizens.

Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table



America has a rape rate of (27.3) per 100,000 citizens.

Jordan has a rape rate of (2) per 100,000 citizens.
United Arab Emirates (near Saudi Arabia) has a rape rate of (1.5) per 100,000 citizens.

Saudi Arabia (no info available)
Countries Compared by Crime > Rape rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com



Then America does things like put a huge percentage of the population in prison (sometimes for no other reason than being poor and black.)

America has (698) per 100,000 citizens in prison.

Saudi Arabia has (161) per 100,000 citizens in prison.
Jordan has (150) per 100,000 citizens in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rceration_rate


When the actual homicide, rape, and incarceration figures are looked at, Saudi Arabia and Jordan appear to be much more civilized than America.




But still your very correct about what you said. Saudi Arabia executes a person every 2 days.
Saudi Arabia executes 'a person every two days' as rate of beheadings soars under King Salman | Middle East | News | The Independent

Personally I get upset with radical Muslims for doing things like mistreating women. And I would love to stop Muslims from doing those things (but I just don't see how insulting Islam is going to stop it.)

Chad.
Sweden has higher rapes than Saudi Arabia, yet any sane woman would pick Sweden over Saudi.

The women in Saudi Arabia are treated as chattels. They cannot drive, need a chaperone to leave the house, and cannot even apply for a passport without their father's or husband's permission. Blasphemy, adultery, homosexuality, apostasy....... are punishable by death.

Islam is a disease and no civilized society should be exposed to it.
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Old 11-12-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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Here is the difference between Christianity and Islam. A rare clip of Saint Teresa. The wisdom of what she says is so simply the truth and right it has to be inspired by God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTtybtgWvac
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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No, it doesn't. This is exactly what I'm trying to tell you.

Jesus said:

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.

This does NOT mean a literal sword and it does NOT mean physical conflict. The "sword" he refers to is the Light of God against evil. It has absolutely nothing to do with a physical sword. In fact, Jesus rebuked Peter in the Garden of Gethsemane for trying to physically take up a sword against a Roman guard.

And the conflict between family members is a reference to the price of discipleship... He knew Christians would be rejected, even within their own family. And he was correct about that.

You completely fail to understand what Jesus was doing and what this passage means. Sorry, but you are completely wrong. And it is feeble to attempt to make a moral equivocation between this passage and Islamic murderers. It's total nonsense.
Could some verses in the Quran be like Matthew 10:34, and actually sound like something they are not?

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Old 11-12-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Actually, if you only count the Quran and fail to include the Hadith and Sunna, you would have a distorted view. Mohammed was a warlord, kidnapper, rapist, murderer and pedophile, as recorded in their scriptures. That is not "twisted" by interpretation. That Muslims are encouraged to emulate the "perfect man" is one reason such barbarity exists today.

IF YOU ARE A TRUE CHRISTIAN OR TRUE PERSON OF THE JEWISH FAITH PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS POST. THIS POST WAS INSPIRED BY SURROUNDING HATE AND EVIL (AND IT CONTAINS THAT SAME HATE AND EVIL.)


Moses was a warlord and a genocidal war criminal.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Jews-re...l-war-criminal

Moses was a kidnapper. Moses invaded cities and killed all the men, killed all the male children, killed every woman who was not a virgin, and then kidnapped all the young girls who were virgins.
https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/...n-and-children

Moses was a rapist. Moses kidnapped young virgins and had his men rape them.
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

Moses was a pedophile. Moses allowed his followers to have sex with 3 year old girls they kidnapped (yes three years old.)
More Great Morals from the Bible
Girls at the age of 3 were forced into sex in both the Talmud and the Bible. Also, the age consent in US and Europe was as low as 10.


And there is evidence that Mohammad's wife was 19 years old not 9 (Moses is the pedophile not Mohammad.)
Prophet Mohammad's Wife Aisha was 19 not 9

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Based on body count, Islam is the superior mass murdering religion.
Christianity has killed more people than Islam. In the 20th century alone Christian powers have killed more people than Muslims have in all of Islamic history.
"Comparing Islam to Christianity" :: Reader comments at Daniel Pipes

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There is a reason why dictators thrive and democracy dies in Islam.
Yes there is a reason. Its the same cultural and environmental factors that caused early Europeans to be ruled by their Catholic Church and Popes (while their Popes tortured and killed their own citizens.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWS0ePXeq24


But whats the point of explaining the cultural and environmental factors that cause Muslims to more commonly live under the rule of dictators? There is no point, you will just ignore the scientific facts and then come back and say something like "Mohammad was a pedophile" (when Moses was raping 3 year old girls.)

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Old 11-12-2015, 04:18 PM
 
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Here is the difference between Christianity and Islam. A rare clip of Saint Teresa. The wisdom of what she says is so simply the truth and right it has to be inspired by God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTtybtgWvac
Way far from GOP racist anti-emigrant,anti-black,war-monger evangelist rethoric,this is totally different from christianity in the US,this is a catholic nun who spent most of her life helping people in India.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Could some verses in the Quran be like Matthew 10:34, and actually sound like something they are not?

The Koran and the Bible are very, very different from each other. More to your point, there is no doubt about what Jesus was talking about and what he meant in Matthew 10:34. Go find a similar passage in the Koran and we'll talk.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Way far from GOP racist anti-emigrant,anti-black,war-monger evangelist rethoric,this is totally different from christianity in the US,this is a catholic nun who spent most of her life helping people in India.
This is why nobody takes you and your fellow Leftists seriously... You really know nothing.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:35 PM
 
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Arguing with muslims... is like arguing with christians.

You will never win an arguement with either. No point in trying.
Both Muslim and Christians should be capitalized, but I suspect you already know that. You just avoid doing it for some personal reason having nothing to do with proper verbiage.

In any event, do you not see a large chasm between the two religions regarding the type of message they promote. To me, love thy neighbor is a little different than follow Sharia Law and be stoned to death.

One of the disconnects which makes me question liberals is that they typically take the side of Muslims over Jews and even Christians. Yet much of what American liberals socially believe in(equal rights for homos, women, freedom from religion, etc.) are the complete opposite of what Muslims preach/practice. To hardcore Muslims, liberals and those who they promote would be the first to be beheaded by them.

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