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I was in a conversation with another where I said Yale is overwhelmingly liberal. He said that was a generalization. I said it was an accurate generalization. He then said I needed evidence to back my sweeping claims. I then shows him a survey taken by over 800 Yale freshmen which showed that over 60% had "very liberal" or "liberal" politics; only about 12% said they had "conservative" views. I noted that it was just the freshman class, so it was incomplete and that not all freshman participated in the survey, but it was still something to think about. He then said the survey was BS and questioned the word "liberal" and proceeded talk about fallacies and the art of argument. (These types - these fallacy listers - are pretty alike, and I say that by just intuition and by experience.)
It's also telling that anyone would dismiss these recent events as NOT a sign of what's being taught to the students.
So what's the theme? Unfair treatment by unnamed, unknown people - that goes unresponsive from administrations.
To me, the response from administration would be to get some concrete details and deal with the offenders - instead of making some nonsense widespread policy or resigning to avoid the problem altogether.
In the link I posted, one of the complaints was that someone used a homophobic slur in class. Get the name of the class member - otherwise, I ain't dealing with it. People can easily vandalize their own stuff and say someone else did it.
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All of this is happening now at once. People all of a sudden did not become overly racist - especially at a college. There are no guilty parties... just accusations.
This will get the media's attention, which means it will get the nation's attention. What's the motive... what's the goal of this? Is the attention being taken off of something else that's going on?
they're demanding that students who put up posters declaring 'free speech' and 'all lives matter' be "required to attend extensive training for racial and cultural competency." WTF?
the sign that drove them over the edge. how hurtful
I believe in liberty for all people, but the current climate on campus runs counter to that. Some friends tell me they are afraid to voice their opinions lest they come under fire from the administration or peers – or the police.
The University of Missouri police department sent an email urging students to report offensive or hurtful speech – not because it is illegal – but so the Office of Student Conduct could take disciplinary action against these students.
Several of us are afraid to disagree with other students, who in turn may report us to the authorities so we can be “dealt with.” Many students have told me they are also afraid to speak out against the protest narrative, afraid they will be called “racist” and become campus pariahs.
What’s lost is honest dialogue.
... Racism can and should be addressed organically by students – but not at the expense of an honest discussion that includes all voices and all viewpoints.
Read the rest at the link.
So could this be another attempt at bullying people to keep quiet on certain subjects? They tried it with the adults, and it didn't work... maybe they are going after the younger demographic where they expect less resistance.
I believe in liberty for all people, but the current climate on campus runs counter to that. Some friends tell me they are afraid to voice their opinions lest they come under fire from the administration or peers – or the police.
The University of Missouri police department sent an email urging students to report offensive or hurtful speech – not because it is illegal – but so the Office of Student Conduct could take disciplinary action against these students.
Several of us are afraid to disagree with other students, who in turn may report us to the authorities so we can be “dealt with.” Many students have told me they are also afraid to speak out against the protest narrative, afraid they will be called “racist” and become campus pariahs.
What’s lost is honest dialogue.
...
Racism can and should be addressed organically by students – but not at the expense of an honest discussion that includes all voices and all viewpoints.
Read the rest at the link.
From the link...
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The “safe space” built at Mizzou means dissenting voices are decried as “racist,” “offensive” or “hurtful.” Students face diversity reeducation, pending expulsion.
Speech on my campus has become limited, not just on the quad. Grad students refuse to dissent from the opinions of liberal professors lest they lose their position, for example.
This is not an Orwellian dystopian novel – this is the climate of the University of Missouri, and it’s the reality that I, and my fellow students, face every day.
kinda make ya feel for the large numbers of normal students who have to live in this hotbed of hair-trigger lunacy
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