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Old 11-14-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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Before I address this issue, people should realize that there are costs associated with everything, both economic and opportunistic, and often there are externalities associated with each decision we make.

If people want social welfare programs, whatever they may be, there are prices to pay. If you want an abundance of student loans available to anyone that can sign their name to a sheet of paper at interest rates mandated by the government, educational institutions have no incentive to lower the cost of tuition.

Additionally, labor capital being replaced by technology or offshored and outsourced to other countries at lower wage rates will put pressure on wages for decades.

This has been stated numerous times on this forum by people who are much wiser and more knowledgeable than I.

Coming from a military background, I know personal sacrifice and service. My actions supported this country's hypocritical, consumerist, and selfish lifestyle, much to the willful ignorance of its entitled constituents. For my service, I was afforded an education.

Many young people show incredible disdain towards the military, so it is unlikely that they will join, despite their actions, ambitions, and desires requiring military action to ensure their extravagant standard of life. However, if young people are sincere about the progression of this country, there are other potential public service options available.

My solution is to consult with economists specializing in myriad of industries, as well as industry leaders, and other specialists to determine what critical infrastructure needs the United States requires to set itself up for future generations.

Recent graduates could then contractually volunteer for a specified timeline in which their debt would be paid off to the extent dependent on the graduate's perceived economic value.

The volunteers graduating with necessary skillsets such as engineering could take positions under veterans and eventually attain leadership positions based on merit. They could eventually find themselves leading significant projects and really building up a resume. For those who graduate with undesirable skillsets, they could do unskilled jobs, but also have the opportunity for management positions obtained through seniority and merit. As the volunteers obtain leadership positions, there could be renegotiation of their terms as they provide more economic value.

Camps could be set up in whatever location was necessary. The volunteers could receive three square meals a day, and a bed for each person. Women and men would stay in separate camps to prevent disorderly behavior. The volunteers could even plant their own food, and raise goats and chickens. Volunteers would be provided with kettlebells and pull up bars that could be used for recreation and fitness. While under contract, volunteers would receive medical care as well.

Not only would this provide a benefit to the United States, it would also promote solidarity and trust. Additionally, it would create true citizens that care about the welfare of their country and its inhabitants. However, this would require selflessness, discipline, and dedication.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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Interesting, but I do think the economic value should be netted down by the cost of food, medical care, and shelter, as well as a stipend if needed. That would extend the length they must work, but in a fair way.
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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Its been tried. It was called "the peace corps"
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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"....this would require selflessness, discipline and dedication"...yeah, you're gonna get that from a generation of college students who have 'safe zones', 'free speech zones' and are instructed to call 911 if any 'hurtful speech' is directed toward them...good luck with that
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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Default on student loans, get drafted into the military for six years.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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Default on student loans, get drafted into the military for six years.
I don't think this is a good idea.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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I don't think this is a good idea.
I agree it is too short given some debt levels to truly pay it off.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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Make colleges get realistic and only require necessary classes. That would cut student debt in half.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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solution to the '''student debt problem'''

PAY your freaking debts

you took a CONTRACT for a loan...you PROMISED to pay it with interest...pay your debt

those who are saying debt forgiveness....should we forgive ALL debt?? mortgages (hey free housing)...business (hey no more failed business)

frack lets make everything free

Iam sure all teachers would just love to try teaching for free...why pay them at all
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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solution to the '''student debt problem'''

PAY your freaking debts

you took a CONTRACT for a loan...you PROMISED to pay it with interest...pay your debt

those who are saying debt forgiveness....should we forgive ALL debt?? mortgages (hey free housing)...business (hey no more failed business)

frack lets make everything free

Iam sure all teachers would just love to try teaching for free...why pay them at all

Amen!
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