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Old 11-18-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Talking points taken directly from Fox News with absolutely no personal research/opinion/critical thinking.

I suppose invading Iraq (a country that had nothing to do with 9/11) and de-stabilizing an entire region all on false pretense (or just a profit motive) while at the same time creating new and more extreme radical sects of terrorism was a great way to protect this country. Do your homework.
oh please

mid east stable???....no in the last 1000 years

iraq was supporting and training alq

isis was created in 1998 ...before bush even came into office
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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oh please

mid east stable???....no in the last 1000 years

iraq was supporting and training alq

isis was created in 1998 ...before bush even came into office
Iraq was stabilized under Bush and with troops pulled destabilized under Obama making the refugees and terrorist go Christmas shopping throughout the western world for places to blow up.

Yes, Isis like most things go back to Al Qaeda and Iran. Darn good thing Obama gave them 150 billion and refused to target Isis isn't it?

Leading from his behind as always, Obama!
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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Again, it was Carter who got rid of the secular leadership of Iran for Radical Islam ones, so thanks Jimmy. At that time cancer wasn't in the brain, so he was kind of Obama like in his own way in decisions with no excuses then as well.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Iraq was stabilized under Bush and with troops pulled destabilized under Obama making the refugees and terrorist go Christmas shopping throughout the western world for places to blow up.

Yes, Isis like most things go back to Al Qaeda and Iran. Darn good thing Obama gave them 150 billion and refused to target Isis isn't it?

Leading from his behind as always, Obama!
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Again, it was Carter who got rid of the secular leadership of Iran for Radical Islam ones, so thanks Jimmy. At that time cancer wasn't in the brain, so he was kind of Obama like in his own way in decisions with no excuses then as well.


Your understanding of this whole issue is seen purely through a partisan hack lens. Oh, and nobody "gave" Iran $150bn
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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oh please

mid east stable???....no in the last 1000 years

iraq was supporting and training alq

isis was created in 1998 ...before bush even came into office
Here you go, ForYourLungsOnly. Now ISIS was created when Clinton was president. See? There was no such thing as the GWB administration. It's clearly only a figment of your librul Commie-addled mind.

This sudden amnesia became apparent as soon as the inane "Obama has wasted our glorious victories in Iraq!" meme started popping up. From there, pretending W never existed was an easy step.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Your understanding of this whole issue is seen purely through a partisan hack lens. Oh, and nobody "gave" Iran $150bn
Oh you think Obama doesn't get Iran the 150 Billion that we were holding because they were a terrorist state, REALLY?

Vote for Hillary right there IMO.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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Here you go, ForYourLungsOnly. Now ISIS was created when Clinton was president. See? There was no such thing as the GWB administration. It's clearly only a figment of your librul Commie-addled mind.

This sudden amnesia became apparent as soon as the "Obama has wasted our glorious victories in Iraq!" meme started popping up. From there, pretending W never existed was an easy step.
No, the stem of modern day problems was Carter removing the Iranian secular leader for Radical Islamic ones. That was the boobie prize right there.
Clinton was the one who caused 9-11 and caused a start by us regarding a war on terror because he would NOT take Bin Laden who had declared war on us. That gave us thousands dead on American soil and disarray all over the Middle East.

We went in (Dems and Repubs) on faulty information, did NOT listen to Trump and went into Iraq which Bush and troops did stabilize.

Obama who leads from his behind removed all ten thousand troops at once for Terrorist to take over and form their own Islamic state and letting them kill tens of thousands doing another genocide on Christians and Jews which also belongs on Obama.

Now being weak, Obama has Terror growing and actually going all over as refugees as Isis promised.

Isis, like Al Qaeda started with Iran. Iran started with Jimmy Carter. But WW3 is all Obama!
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Here you go, ForYourLungsOnly. Now ISIS was created when Clinton was president. See? There was no such thing as the GWB administration. It's clearly only a figment of your librul Commie-addled mind.

This sudden amnesia became apparent as soon as the inane "Obama has wasted our glorious victories in Iraq!" meme started popping up. From there, pretending W never existed was an easy step.
ISIS was formed in 1999...during the Clinton era....the bush1/Clinton sanctions against Iraq killed half a million iraqi children, causing many refugees into Syria, and the birth of isis

and while the majority of isis is Sunni...they also have Shiite supporters(ie the rebels in Yemen)

facts:

1. The group was originally founded by a protégé of Osama Bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in 1999 as Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad (JTWJ).

2. "Levant" -- a region stretching from southern Turkey through Syria to Egypt including Lebanon, Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan, including Iraq

3. ISIS is the Islamic State In Syria.... ISIL- Islamic State in the Levant

4. yes they did enter Iraq in 2004...but they were created in 1999

5. ISIS is an extremist Sunni Islamist movement , Sunni's are not just an Iraqi group...there are Sunni's in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, and even in Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan, and as far up as Chechnya



the syrian rebels are isis

we should be supporting assad right now, but instead the liberal politicians want more ''arab spring'' like egypt and libya.....so dumb
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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we should be supporting assad right now, but instead the liberal politicians want more ''arab spring'' like egypt and libya.....so dumb
It's that little issue about Assad being a mass murderer that gets in the way I think.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Yes, I remember...
Carter brought Radical religious leaders into a then secular Iran.
That was the beginning.

#2 Hillary's husband Bill was too busy with little girls in the Oval Office to take Bin Laden several times giving us a war on terror 9-11.

We went into Iraq on incorrect intelligence. Republicans and Democrats both agreed to go in.
We stabized Iraq with 10,000 troops.

#3. Obama keeps campaign promise despite the sitiuation in Iraq and removes all 10,000 troops on a date certain to the JV team Isis.
Obama's choice went against ALL RASHIONAL ADVISE.

IMO that exploded the new Islamic state and move of the Trojan refugees throughout the western world instead of making a safe zone there or giving them all to Saudi Arabia.

Obama is responsible for the slaughter of everyone in the Middle East and the terror since pulling the troops as I see it.
People have yet to comprehend the death involved with Obama keeping the one stupid campaign promise.
Look for this nimrod to close Gitmo next.

IMO Obama is mental and unfit for office. He can NOT LEAD!
All true except that you left out the Republican contributions, which did not surprise me in the least. I prefer a more 360 degree viewpoint, not that either viewpoint will make a difference in the long run.
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