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You realize it was President Bush who negotiated the troop withdrawal way back in 2008 right ?
You realize it was President Bush who said you can take the troops out when the time was right. That doing so before would do what Obama did. What Obama was pretty much told would happen by most everyone else.
Yes you can blame 100% Obama for the Obama choices.
He chose to remove ALL the ten thousand troops with a date certain turning over an under control Iraq to terrorist.
That is a fact Jack, and all the people going into other countries for the dole and Sharia law are the result of that Obama choice.
The fact is, that on Nov 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed off on a security agreement stating that ALL US forces would withdrawal from ALL Iraq territory no later than Dec 31, 2011.
The fact is, that on Nov 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed off on a security agreement stating that ALL US forces would withdrawal from ALL Iraq territory no later than Dec 31, 2011.
BS, Obama could renegotiate anything he wanted there, and he wanted withdrawal.
His campaign ran on withdrawal.
He was warned by the world that this withdrawal would have all this happen.
Granted he is a limp leader, but he got what he wanted. He pays billions to Iraq and could have gotten troops there then if he wanted to.
BS, Obama could renegotiate anything he wanted there, and he wanted withdrawal.
His campaign ran on withdrawal.
He was warned by the world that this withdrawal would have all this happen.
Granted he is a limp leader, but he got what he wanted. He pays billions to Iraq and could have gotten troops there then if he wanted to.
Iraq wanted them out. How do you negotiate that?
Just how many more limbless servicemen and women did you want coming home...if, they came home at all?
George Bush went into Iraq based on information that was NOT 100% accurate. Everyone at the time including current corrupt Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton agreed with the information along with other Democrats at the time.
Despite the problem with information we did win Iraq and had it under control with 10,000 troops.
Obama was told by ex-President Bush and all Republicans and some Democrats that removing troops at once and giving a date certain will give the enemy Iraq.
Obama as usual did not listen to wisdom and did what he wanted to and removed the troops.
Isis moved in (thanks to Obama) and took over the vacuum that American troops left.
Obama's actions have also caused a mass exodus of Muslims including plenty of radicals throughout the free world.
Pretty much everyone but the socialists around the world said this is crazy, there has to be terrorists among these people.
We now a few terrorist attacks in France and elsewhere.
Obama wants us now to take 100,000 Sharia loving Muslims into this country which is insane.
Well now IMO we are on the way to WW3.
Thanks to Obama.
Anyone think this will end well without a war?
This is about as valid to me as the book of Revelations.
What EVIDENCE do you have to actually suggest a world war is coming. Bare in mind what the first two world wars looked like and what qualities they had; I'm sure you'll say both of those were Obama's fault too. But I ask you, why do you think WW3 is coming?
The fact is, that on Nov 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed off on a security agreement stating that ALL US forces would withdrawal from ALL Iraq territory no later than Dec 31, 2011.
I'm not reading all that. Get real. Give me some quotes out of there that show me where the Iraqi government is begging you to stay. Because in the end, that's all that matters. Not US generals on their knees.
The original date was negotiated by Bush (the fool who started all this crap in the first place). Maliki wouldn't agree the security requirements that the US has for its forces overseas - he also disbanded the army that the US was training.
But, this tit for tat is an internal American argument. Globally, it is America that has contributed to the BS we see around the middle east. There is NO easy solution, and certainly no easy military solution, but if you think it is somehow "weak" to not send in troops and start a ground war, then you are even more misinformed that I previously thought (and that would be difficult )
I'm not reading all that. Get real. Give me some quotes out of there that show me where the Iraqi government is begging you to stay. Because in the end, that's all that matters. Not US generals on their knees.
Maliki DID want us to stay. You must have never been over there or been stationed at any CENTCOM base, or you would've known that. Pretty common knowledge amongst the military that actually cared to keep up with it.
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Obama was told by ex-President Bush and all Republicans and some Democrats that removing troops at once and giving a date certain will give the enemy Iraq.
Obama as usual did not listen to wisdom and did what he wanted to and removed the troops.
ISIS moved in (thanks to Obama) and took over the vacuum that American troops left.
Obama's actions have also caused a mass exodus of Muslims including plenty of radicals throughout the free world.
Pretty much everyone but the socialists around the world said this is crazy, there has to be terrorists among these people.
We now a few terrorist attacks in France and elsewhere.
Obama wants us now to take 100,000 Sharia loving Muslims into this country which is insane.
Well now IMO we are on the way to WW3.
Thanks to Obama.
And all this time, we thought that leftists were against war. Guess we were wrong.
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