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Old 11-17-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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I'm against the Patriot Act and I believe the solution to the refugee problem is to quit bombing their homes so that they have to leave.
The refugees are leaving because ISIS and Al Qaeda are infiltrating their homes, stealing their women and children and raping them or selling them into sexual slavery and murdering the men unless they join ISIS.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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Some states have very liberal limits on multiple gun purchases,
Such as?




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FFL's are only required to report sales of 2 or more guns to an individual if purchased within 5 business days.
Provide a link to this, or just more drivel.....


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Private sales have no limits unless through an FFL.
Agreed, however, have you tried to buy a gun through local purchase lately (within the last 5 years)? I have done many purchases....the people I deal with will not sell any type or style of gun without a CCW permit and a signed reciept that say yes I bought this gun....

But you won't hear that on the news....


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There is no requirement for local LE to enforce above.
Enforce what? Private sale? Why?


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The other part of this is that an individual can purchase from multiple FFL's to avoid detection.
BS, provide proof.....
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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No such thing as a private dealer.

You have dealers and you have private citizens.

The vast majority of guns purchase go through a background check.

Exactly, I have been to tons of gun shows and have NEVER seen a "private dealer" with a booth and selling "hundreds" of weapons. I have had to undergo background checks on every firearm purchase I have made, even though I have a CCW. The ONLY private dealer I have ever seen at a gun show was a guy walking around with a rifle on his back and a big flag in the barrel letting people know that the gun was for sale. I also noticed that by the end of the show, he still had the gun.
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Old 11-17-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Exactly, I have been to tons of gun shows and have NEVER seen a "private dealer" with a booth and selling "hundreds" of weapons. I have had to undergo background checks on every firearm purchase I have made, even though I have a CCW. The ONLY private dealer I have ever seen at a gun show was a guy walking around with a rifle on his back and a big flag in the barrel letting people know that the gun was for sale. I also noticed that by the end of the show, he still had the gun.

Probably because he wanted 3x what the thing was worth, too.

I find it somewhat humorous that the people who claim to know the most about the "gun show loophole" have never even been to a gun show.

People, please stop with the gun show and online loophole mess. You're only showing how ignorant of the law you really are.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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So you want to make the illegal sales extra illegal?
The vast majority of crime guns do not come from gun shows or private sales. If private sales were to become illegal, guns would just be acquired via straw purchase (which is already illegal and where the majority of crime guns come from). Of course when someone gets caught doing this they are often not even put in jail, like the recent example where someone illegally purchased a gun for someone else and then the other person killed someone and the straw purchased just got probation with no jail time.
Not illegal, but I think guns transferred to anyone other than an immediate family member should have to undergo a background check - if not, then why do background checks at all? In California if you sell a gun the buyer has to have a background check, I don't see gun owners lobbying Sacramento to change that law.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Not illegal, but I think guns transferred to anyone other than an immediate family member should have to undergo a background check - if not, then why do background checks at all? In California if you sell a gun the buyer has to have a background check, I don't see gun owners lobbying Sacramento to change that law.

Probably because they know the slightest ripple will do nothing but cause more headaches. Would you kick a pitbull that finally passed out after a 6-day meth bender? (Yes, a little extreme, but you get the point).

Last edited by spankys bbq; 11-17-2015 at 04:10 PM.. Reason: little more -> nothing but
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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The terrorists just love this! They can go to a gun show and stock up, no questions asked!

Yeah, because those "private dealers" are incapable of common sense and profiling. The Obama is the biggest US supplier of weapons to potential terrorists. How better to corner the market than to infringe the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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Exactly, I have been to tons of gun shows and have NEVER seen a "private dealer" with a booth and selling "hundreds" of weapons. I have had to undergo background checks on every firearm purchase I have made, even though I have a CCW. The ONLY private dealer I have ever seen at a gun show was a guy walking around with a rifle on his back and a big flag in the barrel letting people know that the gun was for sale. I also noticed that by the end of the show, he still had the gun.
In Nevada no background check is conducted unless a dealer is selling the gun. At the Reno gun shows there are several private sellers who have booths.
Frequently Asked Questions | Crossroads of the West Gun shows
https://www.revealnews.org/article/g...s-on-firearms/
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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The terrorists just love this! They can go to a gun show and stock up, no questions asked!
No they cannot, but keep posting leftist propaganda bull crap...
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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The refugees are leaving because ISIS and Al Qaeda are infiltrating their homes, stealing their women and children and raping them or selling them into sexual slavery and murdering the men unless they join ISIS.
Syria, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan all had their problems but were relatively stable until we invaded.
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