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It's not necessarily arbitrary, the FBI places these people on a list based on some intelligence, seems prudent to lean towards tighter restrictions and they can challenge their designation.
I don't see it being that effective in any event unless they close the other loopholes in the gun laws, they can always get a gun online or at a gun show or just head to Georgia.
You can't buy a gun on line without passing a background check, if you buy from a dealer at a gun show you have to pass a background check, you cannot purchase a gun in another state without having it mailed to a gun shop in your state and then you have to pass a background check.
Well we jailed foreign nationals for 10 years on arbitrary information, seems like just asking someone to be restricted from gun ownership pales by comparison. I didn't hear anyone bringing up the consitution relative to a trial under the 6th amendment by the way.
The constitution doesn't apply in other countries to non us citizens.
That's true but it really doesn't apply to this law.
I was simply commenting on the differences in rights between citizens and non citizens. THAT concept applies to many laws and bills, both on the books and on the table.
You can't buy a gun on line without passing a background check, if you buy from a dealer at a gun show you have to pass a background check, you cannot purchase a gun in another state without having it mailed to a gun shop in your state and then you have to pass a background check.
Right.
What about if you buy from a "private dealer" at a gunshow?
It's not necessarily arbitrary, the FBI places these people on a list based on some intelligence, seems prudent to lean towards tighter restrictions and they can challenge their designation.
I don't see it being that effective in any event unless they close the other loopholes in the gun laws, they can always get a gun online or at a gun show or just head to Georgia.
There are no "loopholes" in the gun laws. If you buy from a seller that holds an Federal Firearms License then you will go through a background check. That happens if you are at a retail store, a gun show or their home (yes, I've purchased from an FFL at their home). If you are buying from someone who does not hold an FFL and face to face sales are legal in that location then there is no loophole.
Please explain how you can buy a gun online without going through a licensed FFL dealer? If you buy from someplace like Midway USA or Cheaper Than Dirt, hey will only send the firearm to an FFL they have on file. The FFL contacts the customer when the firearm is delivered and they go through a background check when the customer picks it up.
A guy in the parking lot? How is that any different than me buying from a friend at work?
Are you saying you want to restrict that?
No.
There are "Dealers" that are at gun shows and if you purchase a firearm from them they must run a background check. However there are "Private sellers" who also have booths at gun shows, some of whom sell hundreds of firearms a year, but are not required to run a background check because they are technically a "private seller" and not a "dealer".
There are "Dealers" that are at gun shows and if you purchase a firearm from them they must run a background check. However there are "Private sellers" who also have booths at gun shows, some of whom sell thousands of firearms a year, but are not required to run a background check because they are technically a "private seller" and not a "dealer".
Get them on tax evasion. If they are selling " thousands" as you say and I have no idea if someone does that or not you can bet they arent reporting these sales.
They aren't doing anything illegal, so why wouldn't they report their income? That is ridiculous.
It'd be as simple as setting a limit on sales.
If you sell over X many firearms you are no longer a "private seller" who is exempt from the background check provisions.
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