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Old 11-17-2015, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by neko_mimi View Post
"Suspected terrorists"? That's just the kind of ambiguous law the government wants to be able to arbitrarily deny whoever they want.
The Jihadists that just murdered all those people in France were "suspected terrorists".

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Old 11-17-2015, 05:38 AM
 
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It's not necessarily arbitrary.
"Not necessarily" notes that you understand it might be.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:39 AM
 
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The Jihadists that just murdered all those peopel in France were "suspected terrorists".
And the guns they used weren't bought where any list would have stopped them.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Lol.....there is no way one could take a bill named that seriously.

"I'm planting soybeans this year, could you tell me the best fertilizer to use"?

Store owner:...." Just a minute....I will need three forms of identification first".

"No, sorry, no fertilizer for you, you are a terrorist".
Or:

"I see you are a veteran - which means you're more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you are a member of the NRA - which means you're more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you attend town hall meetings - which means you're more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you are active in pro life organizations - which means you are more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you are a registered (fill in the blank) - which means you are more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you have a Concealed Carry permit - which means you are more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"

"I see you drive a Ford dually - which means you're more likely to be a terrorist. No fertilizer for you!"
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And the guns they used weren't bought where any list would have stopped them.
We don't know the details yet.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Not necessarily" notes that you understand it might be.

Well we jailed foreign nationals for 10 years on arbitrary information, seems like just asking someone to be restricted from gun ownership pales by comparison. I didn't hear anyone bringing up the consitution relative to a trial under the 6th amendment by the way.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:48 AM
 
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We don't know the details yet.
Lol.....you can't just go into a store in France and buy the guns they were using.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:49 AM
 
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Well we jailed foreign nationals for 10 years on arbitrary information, seems like just asking someone to be restricted from gun ownership pales by comparison.
I've been completely against both.
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Tell me again how accurate the no fly list is?
So we allow known terrorists in the US but do not allow them to purchase guns?

What a great idea!
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Jawjah
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When someone can be added to the "terror suspect list" based on arbitrary criteria and discretion, without even knowing it, and when there is no due process afforded BEFOREhand, yep, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Its a bipartisan bill. But you are ok with the Patriot Act and refusing syrian refugees because they might be terrorist, correct?
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