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Old 11-18-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I have no idea what positions you held in the past but for a long time the complaints were that Muslims weren't doing enough to condemn the actions of extremists.

Here they do and yet you still complain. This is indeed a major step.

IMO those that would complain here are not looking for solutions but rather are upset that their hatred of those different than they are gets somewhat diluted with actions like this.
^This.

 
Old 11-18-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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And they are all from India, which really means nothing.
Yesterday, I did read of two from elsewhere. I can remember exactly where though. Anyway, it's all a start, I'll take it.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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ISIS has some 30,000 "members". Iraq alone has 30 million people. The people of Iraq alone outnumber ISIS 1000:1. If Muslims actually opposed ISIS, there would be no ISIS. A handful of spokesmen putting out a press release means very little.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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This is pretty cool. 126 Muslim leaders signed a letter denouncing ISIS back in 2014:

Here's Why These Muslims Are Refusing To Criticize ISIS

This is a very interesting article. It also outlines why so many Muslims do NOT denounce ISIS.
It didn't say they wouldn't denounce them. They said they wouldn't apologize for them because they have no reason to be apologizing for them.

There are so many similarities in our stupid spats in this country to take up a few threads.

Pat Robertson says something stupid and many call for other Christians to apologize for it. They have no reason to as they had nothing to do with it.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
ISIS has some 30,000 "members". Iraq alone has 30 million people. The people of Iraq alone outnumber ISIS 1000:1. If Muslims actually opposed ISIS, there would be no ISIS. A handful of spokesmen putting out a press release means very little.

We are a country of 320 plus millions. We have a handful of people that are intent on harming other through things like mass shootings.

Using your logic, why haven't we stopped that?
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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While millions of imams declare fatwas against infidels...
EXACTLY! All non-Islamists are considered infidels!

Read the Qur'an for yourselves...people! See how despicable Islam is!

The Qur'an (Oxford World's Classics) by Muhammad A.S. Abdel Haleem
http://www.amazon.com/Quran-Oxford-W...g=UTF8&qid=&sr=


What the Koran Really Says by Ibn Warraq
What the Koran Really Says - Kindle edition by Ibn Warraq. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

So this announcement is nothing but a smokescreen! Do you see any Muslims fighting them?

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Old 11-18-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Let's see 2.1 billion muslims divided by 1,000.......barely a start, would not qualify as a dusting of snow.
At least it's a start. The issue; these are Indian Imams, and we know how divided the religion is. ISIS are Sunni, so unless this fatwa includes Sunni leaders... it really won't matter. ISIS actually views Shia as being worse than Christian and Jew infidels.

But again, at least it's a start.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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At least it's a start. The issue; these are Indian Imams, and we know how divided the religion is. ISIS are Sunni, so unless this fatwa includes Sunni leaders... it really won't matter. ISIS actually views Shia as being worse than Christian and Jew infidels.

But again, at least it's a start.

No, it isn't, it's just BS!
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Denouncing ISIS for attacking fellow Muslims is one thing.
Denouncing ISIS for attacking Kafirs is another.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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It didn't say they wouldn't denounce them. They said they wouldn't apologize for them because they have no reason to be apologizing for them.

There are so many similarities in our stupid spats in this country to take up a few threads.

Pat Robertson says something stupid and many call for other Christians to apologize for it. They have no reason to as they had nothing to do with it.
If Pat Robertson was wreaking havoc via terrorist attacks globally, every day, killing thousands of people every year, and claiming to represent "true Christianity" while doing so, as a Christian, I'd definitely denounce him. Heck, even though he's not doing that, I'll denounce him.
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