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My take is that you look at things for what they are. You can use whatever language and terms you want, but what is actually being done, and is that wrong or immoral?
I think the Islamic terrorists are wrong if they are the aggressors. I don't think Washington and the colonists did anything wrong because King George was the aggressor. (And actually, I think each individual should be judged by their actions rather than grouping them all together. If it's self-defense or defending others, fine. If it's initiating violence against innocent people, that's wrong.)
I agree that one has to look at things as they were and maybe are.
George Washington was a wealthy Virginia planter and his estate at Mt Vernon VA is lovingly preserved by a private foundation (The Ladies Society of Mount Vernon). Its a great day trip from were I live and I have been there about a dozen times. During the French and Indian war Washington was commissioned a Col in the Virginia Colonial Militia and swore allegiance to King George III. His forces were attached to Gen Braddock's Royal Army forces and he served under Braddock. It was Georges understanding of the frontier and Indian warfare that helped him save the troops under his command when disaster befell Braddock in his ill-fated attempt to capture what would be known as Pittsburgh. After the war he was rewarded for his service by Royal land grants up the Potomac and into the Cumberland gap (Washington counties in Maryland, West Virginia and Pennsylvania were where some of his lands were. Washington also served in the Virginia Legislature (House of Burgesses) and also swore an oath to the King. There was an attempt in the 1760s to convince Washington to take a senior rank in the Royal Army . However that might have sent him overseas to fight in Asia, India or Ireland so he demurred.
He was the man the Continental Congress sought out to command the Coninental Army and he chose to break his allegiance to King George III . The fact he won the Revolutionary War was is the difference from being the Father of his Country and its 1st President or swinging on a rope hanging by neck until dead in the Tower of London after a High State Trial
Another man you can compare to Washington was a man who married one of Martha Washington's granddaughters and the couple inherited the Custis-Lee Estate. We know him as Marsh Robert or General of the Army of Northern Virginia Robert E. Lee. Was he a traitor or a loyal son of Virginia?
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Here is a FEMA Presentation training in Law Enforcement on what a terrorist is and telling them our countries first terrorists were the founding fathers
Today the Boston Tea party would have been considered a terrorist attack.
Why would you think that?
Terrorism is defined as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
There were no deaths, and the only injury was to John Crane by a falling crate. The Tea Party (destruction of the tea) would be considered an act of B&E and vandalism today.
On the other hand, the way the British responded would certainly qualify as terrorism.
No. It is you who is wrong. That's why we have a concept called war crimes and they are considered among the gravest crimes in international law. If there are no lines or boundaries drawn, it would lead to excusing something like the holocaust. After all, it happened during a war, right?
War crimes... pft!
War crimes and being put to death for them, are a way of eliminating your enemy. Nothing else.
We have treason, too.... Better watch your 6!
Robert E. Lee would have been held under war crimes too. So would King George.
Only the winner of the war, gets to declare war crimes... Think about that for a second and I will repeat, you are clueless as to the Holy War you are included in, even if you wish not to be.
The Crusades will make a comeback. You better pick sides or learn the Koran quickly.
War crimes and being put to death for them, are a way of eliminating your enemy. Nothing else.
We have treason, too.... Better watch your 6!
Robert E. Lee would have been held under war crimes too. So would King George.
Only the winner of the war, gets to declare war crimes... Think about that for a second and I will repeat, you are clueless as to the Holy War you are included in, even if you wish not to be.
The Crusades will make a comeback. You better pick sides or learn the Koran quickly.
If you do Bible studies you have a leg up in learning the story from the Qu'ran of a great Muslim Prophet, the only man born since Adam without sin named (Isa bin Maryam) (Jesus son of Mary). The Muslims accept his virgin birth, the fact that be was a man most obedient of GOD (Muslim means be Most obedient of GOD). Islam views Jesus as a Messiah being sent to Earth to lead the people of the book back to the faith of Abraham and Ishmael and unify the Children of Abraham.
You can download free pdf files with English translations of The Qu'ran. Use Google to find them
King George did not surrender to the Americans any more than the USA surrendered to Vietnam in 1973and his Majesties Government chose to cut its losses in a war that became a quagmire. Britain agreed to a settlement giving the USA its own sovgernty and a generous land grant extending the new Nation to the Mississippi. Britain kept the really important wealth generating stuff, Canada for seal pelts, beaver and bison hides and cod fishing, good pine and oak for the Royal Navy and the rum and sugar, spices and indigo of the West Indies. British business retained the right to do business in the USA and The Pound Sterling and British bonds were just as good on Wall Street. In the next century British inventions like the Bessemer steel making process and steel railroads and bridges for that British invention the railroad locomotive made the USA the Industrial Giant. Plus most of the venture capital came from The City.
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Are you kidding? It would have been an environmentally unfriendly incident. The seagulls and fish would be checked for hyper behavior as a result of too much caffeine in the water.
It was the Exxon Valdez disaster of its day
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