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Old 11-19-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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Lib speak/ obfuscation by Hillary 'and' by you!

No one .. that I am aware of has said that all Muslims are terrorists!?

What we 'are' saying is: Not all Muslims are terrorist but all terrorists are Muslims.

I can't even give you a "nice try".
And not all Christians are KKK members, but all KKK members are Christians. But that's no reason to paint all Christians with a racist brush, which is exactly what Clinton is saying. The vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism, so we shouldn't demonize them all, or their religion, for the actions of a very minuscule fraction of the whole.

Again, though, I realize that's probably too nuanced for you to understand.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Government speak...the more they tell you something is or isn't true then you better start to believe the opposite.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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At first I thought the thread title had to be paraphrasing Clinton but no, she actually said:

"Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people, and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism."

Nothing whatsoever.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:36 PM
 
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And not all Christians are KKK members, but all KKK members are Christians. But that's no reason to paint all Christians with a racist brush, which is exactly what Clinton is saying. The vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism, so we shouldn't demonize them all, or their religion, for the actions of a very minuscule fraction of the whole.

Again, though, I realize that's probably too nuanced for you to understand.
Using the conservative logic. Some Muslims are radicals, then all Muslims are radicals. Some christian are KKK, then all christians are KKK. Let's deport them all. The America definitely would be a better place since no one would argue which god is bigger.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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Simple minds can only think in absolutes.
I'm sure Hillary's simple minded absolute is A-OK with you --- 'Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.'

'peaceful and tolerant'
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If the US experiences a terrorist attack close to the election, Hillary's presidential possibilities are toast.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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And not all Christians are KKK members, but all KKK members are Christians. But that's no reason to paint all Christians with a racist brush, which is exactly what Clinton is saying. The vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism, so we shouldn't demonize them all, or their religion, for the actions of a very minuscule fraction of the whole.

Again, though, I realize that's probably too nuanced for you to understand.
Clinton didn't say "vast majority" or "miniscule fraction". She used no qualifiers or nuance at all.

"Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people, and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism."

She is arbitrarily defining Muslims as non-terrorists and terrorists as non-Muslims... two mutually exclusive groups.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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I'm sure Hillary's simple minded absolute is A-OK with you --- 'Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.'

'peaceful and tolerant'
Replace Muslims with Christians in your statement. Would you then conclude that Christians are not peaceful and tolerant people because a small handful of them are KKK racists? Using your logic, that's the only conclusion you can come to--that no Christians are peaceful or tolerant. They must all be racists because a small group of them are.

So, how does it feel to be member of a non-tolerant, racist religion?
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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We need to ban both Islam and Christianity as these two religions are the root of all evil in this planet for hundreds of years.

I would be totally in favor if rounding up devout muslims and Christians and putting them in concentration camps for eventual gassing.

Christianity and Islam are two sides of the same coin; the Koran is basically a exact copy of the Bible. The literal adherents of both books are dangerous and mentally unstable.
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Old 11-19-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The absolute best way to offend the Muslim nations we are attempting to form a coalition with is to state the words Islamic Terrorists, this has been the case for the last decade. I don't understand the right wing rationale for continuing to bring up this nonsense as if it matters one bit.
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