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[quote=T-310;42021548]A good welder can command $50 an hour.[/QUOTE
Correct, but you will still have to get an apprenticeship for those jobs, and not to many of these youngins want to be Welders. I have suggested welding to many students. Pay is also determined by a host of factors, such as company, experience, location, and years of education.
How did those of us who partied full time make it out and land good jobs which became careers?
I partied, raised a family, married and divorced, worked full time most of my years in college and always had on time graduation. Did not miss a beat, so this is where I become disillusioned by folks who have excuses for not doing it in a timely fashion like myself. If sickness or a tragedy happens, I can clearly understand or even if it is a financial barrier, but other than that they need to get it done. I had a career right out the gate with my two year degree, and became a lifelong learner eventually getting the terminal, so excuses are not quite part of my vocabulary. I am extremely grateful that I am designed this way, because most people are not.
After she gets her degree in something-nobody-needs-studies, her poor job prospects will be blamed on discrimination. Not because she's an over-grown baby with no useful skills who's just itching for a discrimination lawsuit.
Being in education and an advocate for it, I have to wish her well and hope that she eventually graduates. It was her goal, and she now has to refocus so she can achieve her dream and she definitely needs counseling to help her along the way. I speak success into her life, and I wish no ill for her.
I partied, raised a family, married and divorced, worked full time most of my years in college and always had on time graduation. Did not miss a beat, so this is where I become disillusioned by folks who have excuses for not doing it in a timely fashion like myself. If sickness or a tragedy happens, I can clearly understand or even if it is a financial barrier, but other than that they need to get it done. I had a career right out the gate with my two year degree, and became a lifelong learner eventually getting the terminal, so excuses are not quite part of my vocabulary. I am extremely grateful that I am designed this way, because most people are not.
It's called YOU stepped up and took care of business when things fell your way IMHO. Job well done.
Then perhaps higher education is not for these people. If the job market is claimed to be so robust perhaps they should investigate that and not keep looking for a nanny.
Exactly. This is part of the much-underestimated additional meaning of the phrase "college is not for everyone".
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Originally Posted by Heaveno
Can't do for most jobs that are paying a decent salary and require a degree. Let her take the six years, financial aid will be there.
That's problematic, because few of the jobs that require a college degree actually require to do the job skills one can only get in college and not in some sort of training or through high school. Indeed, many job categories that historically didn't require degrees now do; we're told that they've become so much more complex, but few positions have changed to the extent that those without a degree can no longer do them well, as this study of credential creep found (e.g. in many of these jobs where they want degrees a lot of incumbents doing well now don't have them).
While there has been an uptick in the jobs that do require college education to be able to do them in the past few decades, those jobs are still few and far between; credential creep is the problem most people face that is driving them to acquire college degrees not out of any genuine educational desire but just to maintain their family's station in life, and if it's not stopped people will someday be slogging through their twenties earning doctorates just to do any middle-class job (that historically might have required a high school diploma).
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Originally Posted by T-310
A good welder can command $50 an hour.
Although underutilized as a career choice at present, the pool of people who have enough aptitude and interest in the field to be good welders is somewhat limited. I must say, however, that I like the establishment's latest plan to make the plebs into welders and plumbers better than their previous idea to make them into nurses and home health aides .
Can't do for most jobs that are paying a decent salary and require a degree. Let her take the six years, financial aid will be there.
By taking two extra years to graduate, she's using up at least an extra $100,000 in scholarships/grants that won't be there for someone else who needs it. There isn't a bottomless well of scholarship funding.
There's validity to questioning why Western history is a core requirement (over other history courses offered) but traumatized over reading about American history? We need to stop sending unprepared students to college.
Actually, we need to stop sending unprepared graduates into the real world.
Actually, we need to stop sending unprepared graduates into the real world.
I say let the go into the real world and fall flat on their faces. And if they start protesting for handouts, just ship them off to one of the socialist countries.
By taking two extra years to graduate, she's using up at least an extra $100,000 in scholarships/grants that won't be there for someone else who needs it. There isn't a bottomless well of scholarship funding.
Talk to your state officials about the problem.
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