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Old 12-04-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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So again....foriegn policy does matter?



Blame the victims? I blame the U.S. for getting involved where they have no business being (and you agree).



I never discussed their role. I simply said when someone gets attacked, they are going to fight back. That is simply stating a fact of human nature.
Honestly, I think you just want to argue for the sake of arguing sometimes. You can argue with somebody else.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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So again....foriegn policy does matter?



Blame the victims? I blame the U.S. for getting involved where they have no business being (and you agree).



I never discussed their role. I simply said when someone gets attacked, they are going to fight back. That is simply stating a fact of human nature.
Who attacked these two muslim killers in California?

I didn't go kill muslims after 9/11.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well if the Freedom Outpost says 15-25% are radicals then it must be true, over a million radical Muslims in the US I wonder why we haven't been attacked. You should be more concerned about the flu.
well, I did not say if the freedom outpost says 15-25% are radicals, then it must be true. How about you give me an accurate number?

Does number really matter? Okay, it is just 1% 0.1%, how about that? What difference does it make? What really matters is that this kind of things happen over and over and over again. This time, happened 60 minutes away from me.

I've never said all Muslims are bad, matter of fact, I don't recall how many times I defend innocent civilized peaceful Muslims. But, political correctness needs to go. Let's face the problem, we are at war with extreme muslim jihadists.

I don't have all the answers, my answer is restrict immigrants from all 25 Muslim nations. For people who are already here, treat them with human decency. That will be my solution.

Do you have a better solution?

We as californians have been attacked, you were offended because I quoted a website and you disagree with the number? really?

How about you offer a reasonable solution?

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Old 12-04-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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People around us are losing their minds as they attempt to twist current events to fit their ideologies, rather than adjusting their ideologies to fit current events. Unfortunately, many of them hold the power to "control" us.
I do believe that "disarming the people" via "gun control" to stem "gun violence" is not a misstatement of current events.
"Besides the ADVANTAGE OF BEING ARMED, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, THE [EUROPEAN] GOVERNMENTS ARE AFRAID TO TRUST THE PEOPLE WITH ARMS."
- - - James Madison, Federalist Papers #46, January 29, 1788.
The Federalist #46

One may infer that the current administration (and others before it) are opposed to the endowed rights of American people, and their sovereignty over the servant government originally instituted to secure those endowed rights.

But I may be mistaken.

Does disarming harmless people and embracing mad dogs "secure rights" of the harmless people?
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: London
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You should be much more concerned with being attacked (mugged/roblooking like you've got money; that's immensely more likely.
That's already a concern, I don't want to have to add another.

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And I'm worried about being attacked because I don't look Muslim and Muslim's kill people just because.
Anyone like that would attack me too, since only they would be able to tell I'm obviously not Muslim. Plus, I'm told I look Persian more than anything. So they'd probably target me first before anyone else. o.O

The joys of being mixed and racially ambiguous...always seen as an outsider (and thus probably an "acceptable" target) among any demographic. :/

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Old 12-04-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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One of the victims was Iranian-American.
She was a Christian who fled Islamists.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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Who attacked these two muslim killers in California?

I didn't go kill muslims after 9/11.
We as a country did then and before then.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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She was a Christian who fled Islamists.
Which is why it is so sad that she died here at the hands of the very same Muslim savages she thought she had escaped from.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Honestly, I think you just want to argue for the sake of arguing sometimes. You can argue with somebody else.
I'm not the one that agreed with someone but still told them they were wrong.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm not the one that agreed with someone but still told them they were wrong.


again, argue with somebody else

I did not say you are wrong, I am saying foreign policy plays an important part, but there is STILL no justification to kill innocent civilians. Do you not agree? If you don't agree, then yes, you are wrong.
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