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Old 12-04-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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https://www.atf.gov/file/11881/download

Feds Fail to Enforce Gun Trafficking Laws, Congress Re-Introduces New Legislation Anyway - Katie Pavlich Feds Fail to Enforce Gun Trafficking Laws, Congress Re-Introduces New Legislation Anyway

Whether or not that legislation explicitly defines gun trafficking as a crime is irrelevant; the point is that there are tools out there at the federal level to target gun trafficking. And, as the last article I posted shows, the feds have been lacking when it comes to enforcement.


We need to get this Republcan Congress off their political pandering butts!
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We need to get this Republcan Congress off their political pandering butts!
What does the Republican portion of Congress have to do with the Fed not doing their jobs ?
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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As if a law will stop criminals/terrorists from doing harm.

One can just go down to Mexico and buy an AK-47, grenades and even a rocket launcher.
Not like our southern border is heavily protected you know.
Do you want to just give up? WWII was fought for our freedoms. We shouldn't be slackers!
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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What does the Republican portion of Congress have to do with the Fed not doing their jobs ?
I can't do your thinking for you.
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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One more time because people seem not to comprehend it.

Gun Control Fallacy
  • Thugs, Criminals and Terrorists use guns to break laws. <---- FACT
so
  • Let's create more laws to stop Thugs, Criminals & Terrorists from using guns. <---- FALLACY
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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We need to get this Republcan Congress off their political pandering butts!
The Republican Congress has NOTHING to do with OBAMAS administration not enforcing the current laws.

“And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies - VP Joe Biden

Pass new laws when you're not enforcing the current laws? Hell no.

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Old 12-04-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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What does the Republican portion of Congress have to do with the Fed not doing their jobs ?
Nothing. That's just leftist thought (i.e. lack of thought) for you.
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do you want to just give up? WWII was fought for our freedoms. We shouldn't be slackers!

What ? No I do not want Americans to have their guns banned.

fight the terrorists, not gun laws.
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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One clarification.

The article linked in the OP states that they ATTEMPTED to convert a S&W rifle to full-automatic operation, not that they successfully made the conversion.

It's really quite difficult to make such a conversion without considerable gunsmithing skill and access to a machine shop.
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Incorrect information in the article...misleading and confusing information!


Article stated..."
EDITED TO ADD: Modifying a gun for fully automatic fire is illegal in every state, it's a federal law. A VERY SERIOUS federal law."


This is misleading because some states allow the use of fully automatic firearms with the purchase of a federal tax stamp


Clarification and steps to get a federal tax stamp...........


"people contact me at class 3 weapons license looking for an “automatic weapons permit” and the answers can sometimes be confusing........... there is no such thing as an automatic weapons permit, just a tax stamp that you need to buy before purchasing the firearm. .........."


If you are interested in getting a Federal Firearms License or Class 3 Weapons License, then check out our main page.
  1. The very first step you need to complete is getting the local LEO to sign off on a form 4. Most LEO’s will know what this is immediately and you can usually gauge whether or not they will give you an automatic weapons permit. It seems that smaller, rural sheriffs are more inclined to sign off than big city cops, but you can try multiple locations if needed. You can get around this step by creating a NFA trust as seen here.
  2. Make sure your record is clean. If you are a convicted felon, owe child support or have any kind of firearm violations, you will not receive an automatic weapons permit. Don’t even think about trying to fudge on this one, and don’t try to get someone else to purchase the tax stamp for you as this will mean jail time for both of ya.
  3. Be prepared to have the local LEO perform a background check on anyone applying. This can range from mild to extremely stringent. Today, most LEO’s don’t want to put a stamp of approval on someone that may cause problems down the road. Make sure you are open and honest with any investigations.
  4. Get your money together, because you are going to need it. With the NFA act, you can not purchase new automatic weapons and this severely limits the supply of them. You will probably need 5000 dollars to purchase a bottom of the line automatic weapon and the cost can go dramatically higher. You will also need to spend 200 dollars on your tax stamp.
  5. Find a class 3 weapons dealer that will sell you what you want and complete the purchase. You will need the specifics from the weapon to fill in the forms. After gathering all the information, complete the form 4 and submit it to the BATFE along with 2 fingerprint cards and pictures. The BATF will let you know when your automatic weapons permit has been accepted or denied and then you can complete the purchase with your class iii dealer.
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