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Old 12-04-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is the smartest statement of the day. Logical and well thought out
Very low threshold for what you call smart.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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Repub Congress AND Feds(prosecutors)

I corrected myself.
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Old 12-05-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Proof once again that no matter how many laws exist, terrorists and criminals will break them, even in California, which is one of the states with the strictest gun control laws in the nation.

•The shooters used weapons they did not purchase (sounds like a straw purchase or illegal transfer).

•The shooters modified guns to accept high-capacity magazines.

•The shooters modified guns for automatic fire


IRON PIPELINE Western Division!

According to a 2013 report by Third Way, there are roughly 500,000 gun crimes every year in the United States. In 9 of 10 gun crimes where the gun was successfully traced, the person who bought it was not the person who used it in the crime. The report also said that 1 in 3 crime guns has crossed state lines, with crime guns traced in New York, New Jersey and Maryland often coming from Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. The report concluded that guns are purchased in the legal market and then move into the illegal market, and gun trafficking serves as a pipeline that delivers guns into the hands of criminals.

CLOSING THE IRON PIPELINE
Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands both have very strict gun control. They are islands so there is no easy access by your "Iron Pipeline" yet they both have vastly higher murder rates than the Continental US. Just goes to prove that your argument is not only agenda driven, it is completely bogus.
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Old 12-05-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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This is why we keep saying the gun control is not tight enough.

Thanks for making the point for us.
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The same "gun control" laws the anti-gun crowds thought that would work but obviously didn't, in San Bernardino or anywhere else for that matter.

It's not the guns, it's the terrorists; how about tighter terrorist control? That would make sense, right? Of course the idiot in the White House won't think of any such sensible solutions because it might offend radical Muslims..
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Old 12-05-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Then I guess we shouldn't have laws against murder, rape and theft -- because people are still going to murder, rape and steal anyway.
Owning a firearm is a Constitutionally protected right.

Murdering, raping and stealing are not.
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Old 12-05-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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So let's make it even easier for the felons and terrorists to acquire guns by eliminating all gun control laws. Wow, you're a genius.
Well, I'm able to make a point without resorting to hyperbole and insult. Neither of these actually addressed my post that you responded to.
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Old 12-05-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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Owning a firearm is a Constitutionally protected right.

Murdering, raping and stealing are not.
Bingo.

Funny how Anti-gun Hoplophobes like to equate the 2nd Ammendment to crimes and if they don't like a certain Legal aspect of obtaining a gun they look to criminalize it through the legislature, courts or Dear Leader's whims.
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Old 12-05-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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So were the bombs they made. Proof once again that bomb control just doesn't work. Why are law-abiding citizens being deprived of the right to bear arms when those armaments are bombs?

Also, what's up with all these laws against murder? They don't work at all! These murderers just ignored the law and killed 14 people! I mean, if they did then there wouldn't be any murders at all! Crazy liberals, trying to control the masses and dictate who gets to kill whom!

No gun control!
No bomb control!
No letting big government tell you who you get to kill!

End this tyranny!
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Old 12-05-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The last 5 pages reiterate the fact that everyone is locked into their own opinions regarding guns. The FACTS, however, are not opinions and are irrefutable.

There are only TWO things which would have prevented or mitigated the carnage in San Bernardino:

1. Had the neighbor ignored political correctness and reported the odd behavior she witnessed, and

2. If at least one person in the room (preferably more) had been armed and trained in the use of their weapon.

THAT'S IT. The rest is fairy tales, unicorns and agenda-driven BS.


You are correct about the woman who witnessed, but said nothing, but on the other point you are making in regard to some of those in the building being arm would have made a difference, I totally disagree with you.
The first thing one does when confronted with an armed suspect is, run/hide/duck in order to protect one's self.
That is a natural reaction.

The only way it would be any different is if one or more of the people in that building was armed, and had formal training in firearms, or a military background.
Average citizens are not going to stand up, and start firing at an intruder, they are going to run, duck, and hide.

Bob.
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Old 12-05-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Owning a firearm is a Constitutionally protected right.

Murdering, raping and stealing are not.
I couldn't have said it any better.
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