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I want every state to honor ANY state's legally issued CCW
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Originally Posted by BentBow
The 2nd amendment in the bill of rights, make conceal carry legal in all 50 states.
The 10th amendment cannot over ride the 2nd amendment. Read the 10th. The 2nd has already been defined as left to the people. Federal, State, and local government, have no say. State constitutions have to allow the very things the US Constitution has. They can only allow more liberty than the Us Constitution, but never take liberty.
Remember. Constitutions, chain governments, not free people.
not to mention the full faith and credit portion of the constitution. states are supposed to give full faith and credit to individuals from other states that have legally issued credentials.
The 2nd amendment in the bill of rights, make conceal carry legal in all 50 states.
The 10th amendment cannot over ride the 2nd amendment. Read the 10th. The 2nd has already been defined as left to the people. Federal, State, and local government, have no say. State constitutions have to allow the very things the US Constitution has. They can only allow more liberty than the Us Constitution, but never take liberty.
Remember. Constitutions, chain governments, not free people.
How does right to a militia translate into right to have a concealed carry? That ammendment is very vague but meant local militias could be formed to keep the Federal government at bay.
A concealed weapon increases murder odds but it won't help againt a military coup or SWAT teams. If you want to actually "form a militia" and keep the weapons in a compound fine. But mowhere does it say every man can walk around armed everywhere.
Also our constition isnt perfect and maybe its time its changed. Remember when blacks were 60% of a person?
How does right to a militia translate into right to have a concealed carry? That ammendment is very vague but meant local militias could be formed to keep the Federal government at bay.
A concealed weapon increases murder odds but it won't help againt a military coup or SWAT teams. If you want to actually "form a militia" and keep the weapons in a compound fine. But mowhere does it say every man can walk around armed everywhere.
Also our constition isnt perfect and maybe its time its changed. Remember when blacks were 60% of a person?
It doesn't it is the right to Bear Arms that covers your concern. Militias can be formed for many reasons not just to stop oppression from the government. How does conceal carry increase the possibility of murder, unless you mean it is murder to shoot an assailant, which does not qualify as murder.
Militias do not have to keep their arms in a compound, you are just making up your own rules as you see fit, no thanks I will pass on that. By the way it does not say that they cannot walk around armed everywhere and just for your knowledge people did walk around everywhere with arms during the days of the Founding, it was a dangerous world and guess what it still is.
Blacks are no longer considered as such and the Constitution was not amended to ensure that fact. The Constitution is just fine as is and the vast majority of People like it that way.
How does right to a militia translate into right to have a concealed carry? That ammendment is very vague but meant local militias could be formed to keep the Federal government at bay.
A concealed weapon increases murder odds but it won't help againt a military coup or SWAT teams. If you want to actually "form a militia" and keep the weapons in a compound fine. But mowhere does it say every man can walk around armed everywhere.
Also our constition isnt perfect and maybe its time its changed. Remember when blacks were 60% of a person?
There have bèen more background checks. There hasnt always been background checks. You used to be able to buy guns at almost any store. But ince feds got involved , prices of ammo and guns have been slowly climbing. I am glad I bought new AR and lots of ammo two days. before the latest terrorist attack
Exactly. Its strange that you could go to a store, like Sears or Montgomery Wards and buy a gun, then take it home with you, and there was no "mass shootings" or idiots screaming for gun control. Now these same idiots are trying to tell us its the guns fault. Goes to show clueless people should not have a voice in something they know nothing about. You should be able to pass a "Background Check" to see if your fit to talk about guns, and if not, you don't get to discuss it. Works for me....
How does right to a militia translate into right to have a concealed carry? That ammendment is very vague but meant local militias could be formed to keep the Federal government at bay.
A concealed weapon increases murder odds but it won't help againt a military coup or SWAT teams. If you want to actually "form a militia" and keep the weapons in a compound fine. But mowhere does it say every man can walk around armed everywhere.
Also our constition isnt perfect and maybe its time its changed. Remember when blacks were 60% of a person?
Most Americans don't need you to translate what the Constitution really means. The Supreme Court already has that job.
You may not understand what it means, but that's not anyone's fault but your own. Some people can't add 2+ 2 either. You have the freedom of speech, but no where in the Constitution does it say it applies to Posting here. Where do you folks find these silly arguments?
You'll need to provide evidence of this claim. The US murder rate has dropped by 49% since 1993 but concealed carry has greatly increased in that same time period.
Also our constition isnt perfect and maybe its time its changed. Remember when blacks were 60% of a person?
1) The Constitution is just fine the way it is. I know you want to get rid of the Second Amendment (because you don't understand it) but that will never happen.
2) Blacks were deemed 2/3 of a person because Abolitionists knew this would give the South LESS voting power in Congress. It was a way of FIGHTING slavery and those who supported it, not endorsing it.
If Congress or the States want to ban AR-15s and other weapons that mass murderers seem to prefer, that would not mean that an American is not allowed to ‘keep and bear Arms’, for there are other Arms available. Simply saying “but I like to us an AR-15 for target practice’ does not seem a compelling reason for keeping such weapons available for purchase. Obviously, to me at least, those that already own such weapons would be able to keep them. Hopefully, future mass murderers would, in time, find them more difficult to obtain. However, Americans would still have Arms to defend themselves, and so the Second Amendment is not violated.
Exactly what part of "Not Be Infringed" don't you understand?
What if you put a Particular" Candy, in your analogy, in a wrapper that looks scary? Do you Ban the Candy if its same as any other? You folks are scraping the bottom of the Barrel. You have nothing that makes sense to discuss. You could pass all the Laws you want, but it doesn't mean one has to pay any attention to them, if they are so stupid , that the person who obeyed them would be just as stupid.
Go to You Tube and look at some of these Morons proposing Gun Laws that apply to parts they have no clue about, or don't even know what they are. Is that the Caliber of folks we want telling use what we can and can't do? Not hardly. These same folks can become "Unhinged" at the drop of a hat, and should be watched.
Most Americans don't need you to translate what the Constitution really means. The Supreme Court already has that job.
You may not understand what it means, but that's not anyone's fault but your own. Some people can't add 2+ 2 either. You have the freedom of speech, but no where in the Constitution does it say it applies to Posting here. Where do you folks find these silly arguments?
The supreme court cant be full of $hit? Im totally for abortion but the "implied right to privacy" clause to legalize it was utterly absurd. It should be a state issue. And the "militias" were originally meant to give the states leverage to keep the federal government in check.
So heres a question? Why is our per capita gun murder rate at least 10x higher than every other first world country? Maybe that should be addressed. If we're afraid of government taking our rights then form militias and address it. But dont think that having handguns concealed in urban areas is going to keep the government at bay.
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The supreme court cant be full of $hit? Im totally for abortion but the "implied right to privacy" clause to legalize it was utterly absurd. It should be a state issue.
So heres a question? Why is our per capita gun murder rate at least 10x higher than every other first world country? Maybe that should be addressed. If we're afraid of government taking our rights then form militias and address it. But dont think that having handguns concealed in urban areas is going to keep the government at bay.
Its time many people go travel and see that our 1787 document isnt perfect and that many other countries frankly are better and have surpassed us in many ways.
Take out 3 or 4 large urban centers off those stats and the US falls right in line with other "developed" Countries. So, what does that tell us about those 3 or 4 large urban centers? Then, why should the rest of us suffer due the actions of residents in 3 or 4 Cities.
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Infringed" don't you understand? 
