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First off, I am pretty non-confrontational. I believe in getting along just for the sake of getting along. Aimgenerally keep my opinions to myself in terms of politics, religion etc. but occasionally I will go on the offensive if I notice someone is being arrogant. Ignorant, etc.
had drink after work today with a friend and his cousin. I have pretty conservative beliefs (which to me, are common sense beliefs) but I have 1 or 2 liberal beliefs also. Here is a basic transcript of the argument:
Cousin: These guns are just so dangerous, they need to just confiscate all of them and ban them in this country.
Me: Dude, that's ridiculous. because murdered exist, everyone should have their rights trampled on? Are you familiar with the reasons the 2nd amendment was created?
Cousin: Yeah, yeah whatever. it was written by a bunch if dead old white men who didn't understand what the future would have in store.
Me: Again I'll ask you, do you know why the 2nd amendment was written?
Cousin: Because there were no cops so people had to police themselves
Me: No. It was to keep government in check and give ordinary citizens a way of arming themselves against future government tyranny. Nations work in cycles, sooner or later they all fall to tyranny. The founding fathers knew history well, and wanted a way for Americans to protect their liberties.
Cousin: LOL There's no way in hell ordinary people could defeat the U.S. military with bombs, heavy machine guns, and tanks.
Me: are you serious right now? Have you never heard of the Vietnam War? You act like a rebellion would be fought in an open field. When was the last time a battle was fought like that? It would be a guerilla war, mostly fought in cities where air superiority would mean nothing. Also, an army would need to be deployed and there are 350 million Americans. Ordinary rebels would hide in the shadows and fight a guerilla war. All those bombs and fighter jets would be for nothing. It's laughable that you cannot see this.
That was the gist of it. We didn't get along well. We agreed on nothing. like I said, I normally just ignore Liberals in person.
First off, I am pretty non-confrontational. I believe in getting along just for the sake of getting along. Aimgenerally keep my opinions to myself in terms of politics, religion etc. but occasionally I will go on the offensive if I notice someone is being arrogant. Ignorant, etc.
had drink after work today with a friend and his cousin. I have pretty conservative beliefs (which to me, are common sense beliefs) but I have 1 or 2 liberal beliefs also. Here is a basic transcript of the argument:
Cousin: These guns are just so dangerous, they need to just confiscate all of them and ban them in this country.
Me: Dude, that's ridiculous. because murdered exist, everyone should have their rights trampled on? Are you familiar with the reasons the 2nd amendment was created?
Cousin: Yeah, yeah whatever. it was written by a bunch if dead old white men who didn't understand what the future would have in store.
Me: Again I'll ask you, do you know why the 2nd amendment was written?
Cousin: Because there were no cops so people had to police themselves
Me: No. It was to keep government in check and give ordinary citizens a way of arming themselves against future government tyranny. Nations work in cycles, sooner or later they all fall to tyranny. The founding fathers knew history well, and wanted a way for Americans to protect their liberties.
Cousin: LOL There's no way in hell ordinary people could defeat the U.S. military with bombs, heavy machine guns, and tanks.
Me: are you serious right now? Have you never heard of the Vietnam War? You act like a rebellion would be fought in an open field. When was the last time a battle was fought like that? It would be a guerilla war, mostly fought in cities where air superiority would mean nothing. Also, an army would need to be deployed and there are 350 million Americans. Ordinary rebels would hide in the shadows and fight a guerilla war. All those bombs and fighter jets would be for nothing. It's laughable that you cannot see this.
That was the gist of it. We didn't get along well. We agreed on nothing. like I said, I normally just ignore Liberals in person.
While your views likely reflect what the founders intended they are not compatible with the view of the USSC which made it clear that protecting against the government is not within the Second.
Sorry about that but even the less wild eyed of the right agrees the second was not to allow resistance to the government. If you persist in your belief you will likely end up on various list of dangerous terrorist and your freedom may be restricted.. This was brought to you by the NRA among others who don't like what the founders intended. Then again if you put the founders intent to a vote it would lose very badly.
What's going to happen to your little rebellion when both the government and a good chunk of the population disagree with you?
No offense, Vietnam was 40-50 years ago, and the government is packing all sorts of stuff that wasn't invented then. And you're going to pull off a conservative insurgency by fighting in cities? People ain't going to put up with that!
What's going to happen to your little rebellion when both the government and a good chunk of the population disagree with you?
That's the rub.
I'm not 100% with either side on what passes for a Second Amendment debate. I'm liberal, but certainly not knee-jerk anti-gun by any means. But Bertrand Russell pointed out in 1920 that in a modern democracy, no revolution can succeed without the support of at least enough of the population as would be sufficient to change the government constitutionally.
If you can't get people off the couch to vote for your program, you aren't going to get them to kill other people, and risk being killed themselves, for your program.
What's going to happen to your little rebellion when both the government and a good chunk of the population disagree with you?
No offense, Vietnam was 40-50 years ago, and the government is packing all sorts of stuff that wasn't invented then. And you're going to pull off a conservative insurgency by fighting in cities? People ain't going to put up with that!
North Vietnamese had an army
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