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Old 12-09-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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I read patiently through an entire page of nonsense to post exactly what you have said. Well done. Not only don't they want to pay for American labor they actually pay colleges to close their STEM programs before they are full because they intend to fill the labor shortage with H1B's. That's fine, as far as it goes (not) but the continued blaming of the victims is just so much hypocrisy. It makes me ill. And what about the incredible increases in college tuition which outpace inflation by double digit percentages?
Agreed.

there is an entire industry out there dedicated to spreading propaganda about "American STEM workers aren't any good," or "American education is inadequate."
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I read patiently through an entire page of nonsense to post exactly what you have said. Well done. Not only don't they want to pay for American labor they actually pay colleges to close their STEM programs before they are full because they intend to fill the labor shortage with H1B's. That's fine, as far as it goes (not) but the continued blaming of the victims is just so much hypocrisy. It makes me ill. And what about the incredible increases in college tuition which outpace inflation by double digit percentages?
Sorry to contribute to the nonsense, I just like to kid, but I agree with you.

Last Month a bill got introduced to congress:

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Two of the Senate's leading H-1B reformers, Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), say abuse of the H-1B visa "is real" and the need for reform is urgent. On Tuesday they introduced a new reform bill they say will protect U.S. workers.
The two senators have made repeated efforts since 2007 to try to reform the H-1B program. This time, they're getting help from three senate co-sponsors: Bill Nelson -- a Democrat from Florida, where Disney replaced U.S. workers with H-1B holders -- and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio). Both Brown and Blumenthal signed a letter earlier this year requesting a federal review of the use of H-1B workers at Southern California Edison.

"The H-1B visa program was never meant to replace qualified American workers, but it was instead intended as a means to fill gaps in highly specialized areas of employment that cannot be filled by Americans," said Grassley, in a statement.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/11/us...cold.html?_r=0
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Agreed.

there is an entire industry out there dedicated to spreading propaganda about "American STEM workers aren't any good," or "American education is inadequate."
That "industry" is Bill Gates.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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That "industry" is Bill Gates.
well, he contributes to funding this propaganda. Along with guys like Zuckerberg.

But most of it is funded by companies like IBM, Deloitte, Accenture, Cognizant, etc. -- any of your major u.s. tech companies.

And Brookings, which is supposedly "the most respected think tank in the world", is a key player. And ALEC. And NASSCOM

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Old 12-09-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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A lot of millennials are working service industry jobs because A) they majored in a field that is unmarketable in the real world or B) they don't want any better.

I agree though its dumb to include students in a survey like this.
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Old 12-09-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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So far hopefully hourly pay won't decrease, lot of funding from the state being cut to my field of work. Any ways I make about $36K a year and taxed about 22% between federal/state Income taxes. Then add in another $1,000 to $3,000 in property taxes/money owe back to IRS. On average taxed about $10,000 a year only 28. Hoping to go back to school make more, but even if I make $60K a year will average $40K a year. Think someone between $20K to $40K shouldn't have more than $5,000 taken out of their yearly pay for taxes. Anyone $50,000 to $75,000 shouldn't have more than $10,000 taken out from income taxes.
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Old 12-09-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The age group is 18-34. What are you looking for ..$100K+ salaries or something ?

Your high earnings come later in life..not upon hitting adulthood at 18.
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The age group is 18-34. What are you looking for ..$100K+ salaries or something ?

Your high earnings come later in life..not upon hitting adulthood at 18.
Maybe not 18, but my SO was knocking on six figures LONG before 34...
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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Have you seen their work ethic? This doesn't surprise me one bit..
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