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It takes a lot of hatred to remove a statue that was put there by the love and honor of those doing it.
Hate on and see where it takes you. Good people build up. Trashy people trash. History happened. Get over it.
Have you noticed most of this historical trashing is happening in areas with extremely high crime rates? Maybe they should change their focus to try and wipe out crime.
We visited New Orleans and got away still alive. No need to ever go back there.
I agree with you 100 percent. It is a shame that anyone in a Confederate state would be ashamed of their heritage. It is a crime that a vocal politically motivated minority is getting all this removal of flags and memorials done. Last summer when they took down that flag over in SC I have never seen more stars and bars flying high. They have not changed history, much to their dismay. I agree that towns like NO should be more worried about their crime rate, and cleaning their city.
It is a shame that anyone in a Confederate state would be ashamed of their heritage.
There's no such thing as a Confederate state any more. And the Confederate heritage isn't really something to take pride in, either. Southern states have a lot to be proud of, but that 5-year embarrassment isn't it.
This is really pissing-off most of us in the NOLA area.
This is about apeasing a few angry black activists intimating there will be riots if they don't get their way.
The mayor doesn't see the harm in it.
This is just the beginning for them. If they can pull this off, next will be street names.
Every Amercan should be up in arms about this cleansing.
This is really pissing-off most of us in the NOLA area.
This is about apeasing a few angry black activists intimating there will be riots if they don't get their way.
The mayor doesn't see the harm in it.
This is just the beginning for them. If they can pull this off, next will be street names.
Every Amercan should be up in arms about this cleansing.
It is your area and in the end the decision of the people of your area. I agree 100 percent with you however and hope the people who live there decide to not tolerate your history being erased. Let them get angry, and if anyone riots, well that is what prisons are for. No small group of people should be able to get their way because people fear the violence they will inflict. That kind of thinking gives bad people way too much influence.
To perpetuate the victimhood while demanding special treatment because of that victimhood.
And these knuckleheads from BLM and race baiters like Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton are doing a huge disservice to ALL of those who fought for the freedom of slaves, and those who fought for equal rights for all during the Civil Rights Movement!
And then starve because he doesn't have a job to earn money to feed his family.
I guess the welfare state has taken care of that.
Does anybody up north ever live with reality? I get the idea from the posts I see on here that many don't. Many people are slaves to their credit cards today.
Raises hand... This born and bred yankee from the Buckeye state sure as hell does!
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What goes around, comes around. You need to realize that what you accept today that you approve of will someday come back around to bite you in the ass.
The pendulum always swings.
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Or maybe as an example, say the Red States get sick of all this PC, big government and unconstitutional behavior by the Northern Government and they all secede again. This time however things turn out different, as Red State America is the productive strong part of the country and you lefties have to look up and see that ole Confederate flag flapping in the wind. It wont be there as part of a history monument, but this time it will be there for real, and all that PC, liberalism and atheism will be swept away. The hippie dream of the 60s and 70s destroyed forever, and the constitutional republic our founding fathers intended will be a reality.
More like this as a possibility.
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I'm torn on this. On one hand it's a terrible mistake to think you can correct history by removing visual reminders of it. But on the other hand, most of these monuments were not erected until the 1930 and later in an effort to romanticize the Antebellum South and rewrite history about the Civil War.
If anything, I think we should keep these monuments in place but add new plaques telling the unvarnished truth about who these supposed heros of the South were.
The statues in question have been there for 150 years.
The US Constitution defines treason as levying war against the government and aiding and abetting its enemies. By that definition, every Confederate soldier as well as every Confederate leader was a traitor. Unless you don't believe in the Constitution...
NO ONE at the time, not even the NORTH and their leaders, believed nor called them traitors... they were not fighting under the US Constitution, they were fighting under the CSA Constitution.. if they were traitors, they would have been SHOT or HUNG which yet they were not.. except for WEIRZ from Andersonville and he was hung for WAR CRIMES, not for being a traitor. In fact, during the turn of the century, there were large reunion celebrations where BOTH NORTHERN and SOUTHERN veterans met and celebrated (probably the fact that they lived through it).. you would not do that with a TRAITOR...
Calling CSA soldiers traitors is rewriting history..
I don't have a dog in the fight for monuments in New Orleans, if the leaders of that city want to remove them, its none of my business nor anyone's outside of LA.. My question would be, why stop there.. shouldn't all Confederate Soldiers graves, you know the ones with the CSA mark or Southern Cross be desecrated.. those are (mini) monuments after all?
Why is it so hard for some to believe that you can be proud of something someone does yet be ashamed at something else that same person does. We do it with our kids, we do it with our friends, yet we only have one set of emotions when it comes to the men (and women) from ~1860. We contend they were either Great Heroes who fought bravely for their states or they were evil slave owners who were the worst kinds of humans. Its obvious they were somewhere in between.
The ironic thing is that those brave men fighting for the North were no different than those brave men fighting for the South. Many were conscripted into the WAR by their governments. Had they lived across the river, they would have been wearing blue vs grey and would have thought no less of it. They were NOT fighting to END Slavery nor to PRESERVE Slavery, they were fighting because (big brother) told them to.. PERIOD.
It is a FOOLS game to look back in time ~150 years and judge people using the moral standards of today. Yet, there are a world of fools out there so when they start to play their game, its best just to extend them some rope and let them run free...
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